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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Nov 22, 2011 3:34pm
Hello everyone,
I lurk here from time to time, learnt a lot from this, especially about invisible thread a while ago 
I'm mostly a cardist/flourisher, but I love playing with rings, and I've just made a compilation video of my ring sleights and flourishes : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPgsoNHhRU
As a flourisher I fear the kind of video edit may not be very fitting to your tastes but I hope you ring magicians will enjoy the moves regardless of it, as I think De'ring was pretty well received here in the past. 
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bowers
Inner circle
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Posted: Nov 22, 2011 4:16pm
That's some great magic ryoma.
do you work with coins too?
todd
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Deadsets
Regular user
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Posted: Nov 23, 2011 12:11am
Cool
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Blayk P
New user
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Posted: Nov 23, 2011 1:21am
That is amazing! Where did you learn that?
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Nov 23, 2011 6:47am
Thanks, I'm glad you like it
bowers : no, I don't do much stuff with coins... learnt a few sleights (retention pass, french drop... basically silver dream by Justin Miller lol) and can do a coin roll but that's it ^^
Blayk : I created those myself ^^ some are inspired by classical magic (yeir medid finger vanish, the ring thing (love the effect, but wanted a "no cheat" version)), some are the result of technical challenges I wondered about (like the one handed ring switch (ring in palm and ring on finger switching places) or the "quantum ring on" (ring on under another ring))...
and I also noticed it was common to perform coin magic with rings, using the same sleights, and I didn't really like it, so I thought a lot about particularities of a finger ring to develop sleights that take advantage of them (and thus aren't moves you can do with coins)... this is how most of the color changes were born
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pabloinus
Inner circle
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Posted: Nov 23, 2011 9:37am
Wow, you have a lot of time in your hands !!!
Impressive...
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MuleePete
Loyal user
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Posted: Nov 23, 2011 2:36pm
I am sencing an opprtunity for an instructionaly DVD here.
Very nice to watch.
Pete
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2011 12:05pm
Heh, thanks
If there's demand for it I'm not against teaching those ^^
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Yano
New user
79 Posts
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Posted: Apr 22, 2012 10:48pm
Nice ideas and variations on De'ring, really inspired me.
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Ray Bertrand
Special user
674 Posts
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Posted: Apr 26, 2012 4:25pm
WOW! Great stuff Ryoma. You`ve definitely paid your dues (practice) with this one.
Ray
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Apr 27, 2012 1:18pm
Thanks a lot
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Hugh Entwistle
Regular user
170 Posts
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Posted: May 1, 2012 8:23am
I really like how you applied DeRIng to using two rings, that's some skill you've got there!
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
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Posted: May 25, 2012 10:55pm
Pretty amazing stuff there, ryoma!
Thank you.
Jim
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qkeli
Elite user
paris,france
499 Posts
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Posted: May 28, 2012 4:03pm
Congratulations Man, really excellent !!!
let us know if you let out some of those moves..
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vinsmagic
Inner circle
sleeping with the fishes...
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Posted: Jun 2, 2012 3:45pm
Thart is the best I have ever seen
congrats please put out a dvd
vinny
Come check out my magic.
http://www.vinnymarini.com
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Motley Mage
Loyal user
Moving up slowly from just
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Posted: Jun 2, 2012 5:03pm
Thoma-Could you set your Youtube permissions to allow mobile viewing? I do much of my Café's viewing from my phone.
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Andre Hagen
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Inner circle
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Posted: Jun 2, 2012 6:54pm
Hmmm,...I get "cannot load movie" on my IPad. Is it still out there?
"Arthur, I see that magic is really just a lot of bull****."
"Yes Pop, you've got it. It is, but you've got to know just how to shovel it."
-Arthur Brandon from his book Milo and Roger
"If they like you as a person, they'll like your act."
-Nate Leipzig
“Magic is the only honest profession. A magician promises to deceive you and he does.”
-Karl Germain
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Jun 2, 2012 8:15pm
Thank you very much everyone, I'll let you know when there is more information about this
And thanks for bringing into attention that problem about iPad and other mobile devices... it's weird as it used to work well... I had to change the BGM to use one of their own tracks... 
clips are not well-timed with the bgm anymore but the important part is the moves anyway, so please try again it should be working now
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Andre Hagen
Inner circle
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Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:46pm
I can see it now on my IPad and it was well worth the wait. Beautifully done!
I would like to see a DVD. Shouldn't be hard to find a producer on the strength of that performance.
Also, you kept the attention on your hands without having your face in the camera. That says much about your humility...not what you would expect from someone doling flourishes.
Best of luck!
Andre
"Arthur, I see that magic is really just a lot of bull****."
"Yes Pop, you've got it. It is, but you've got to know just how to shovel it."
-Arthur Brandon from his book Milo and Roger
"If they like you as a person, they'll like your act."
-Nate Leipzig
“Magic is the only honest profession. A magician promises to deceive you and he does.”
-Karl Germain
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Jun 3, 2012 3:48pm
Thank you very much, glad you felt it was worth the trouble, and glad it's working again on mobile devices
(although to be honest about the face thing I'm not sure this can tell anything about humility as sadly we've seen counter-examples of this in the "xcm world"... ^^; )
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Leland
Inner circle
St Louis
1090 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 5:08pm
SMOKES!
Life of Magic!
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Motley Mage
Loyal user
Moving up slowly from just
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 5:56pm
Thanks for making the video available for mobile. Absolutely beautiful manipulation. Truly magical.
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Motley Mage
Loyal user
Moving up slowly from just
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 5:58pm
And terribly sorry I did not notice my phone's spellchecker altered your name in my original post.
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 5:53pm
Thanks a lot Motley Mage, and no worries about the misspell
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ropeadope
Elite user
Mississippi
453 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2012 1:31pm
WOW! Beautiful, graceful & VERY magical ryoma.
You should make & sell a DVD.
Would be similar to Gregory Wilson`s DVD; Ringleader. Customers could pick out certain moves
for their own routine.
Great skillful magic & as the Godfather says; "the best I`ve seen."
Thanks for posting, I always like to see well done & mystifing magic.
Have fun,
John
Nothing is better than more.
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Mary Mowder
Inner circle
2000 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2012 1:57pm
Loved your video.
Didn't much like the out of frame moments and I'm curious as to how you frame an actual performance for people but VERY impressive work.
Did you study Thimble work?
-Mary Mowder
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ryoma4148
New user
71 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2012 5:58pm
Thank you very much
@Mary : sorry about the out of frame moments, it was meant to "mimick" what a spectator sees (not that you have to go out of frame in a live performance, but the human eye is not very good at perceiving small movements hidden in bigger ones, while a video camera will make the whole frame look like a "small movement" anyway (almost no eye tilting is required to look from the left to the right side of a framed youtube video ^^)).
About framing actual performance, as John foresaw it (and ringleader was an inspiration for me ), I usually pick small subsets of moves to construct little routines (it's more flourish-like, going with a walkaround type of performance). I don't believe I could create a whole act based solely on ring manipulation without finding it boring :/ (not saying it cannot be done, I think it has more to do with my lack of experience in magic in fact)
You can easily find several sets of 5 or 6 sleights that build up nicely, though, and that usually goes well in between small sets of card tricks or other stuff... if you need you can also "theme" the different small sets.
For example you can start with "ring jump instantly on the finger" (basically an enhanced de'ring, or even de'ring would work), then you do other stuff,
then you go back to the rings with a small set of "ring goes through the fingers" effects... then you can do other stuff...
if you want to go back to the rings, then you can use a spellbound like color change themed routine, or ring switch/ finger switch routine etc...
(In such case of course, it's better to order the themes so that they also are building up ^^)
In fact I love combinatorics, and I tend to see these ring sleights as generating sets (take a few and you can explore a trick space by using combinations... take some others and you have a different trick space at reach... add some and the trick space can expand.. etc).
In this context, the video is a display of the vectors and a few of their combinations...
Oh and no, never studied thimble work Saw some vids though and it does look like it can be close to ring work
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