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seadog93
Inner circle
Berkeley CA
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 2:16pm
Do you have a business license in every city you perform?
If you get a call to do a birthday party in a random city are you supposed to get a business license in that city?
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 2:17pm
I guess it depends on the city and state.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
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seadog93
Inner circle
Berkeley CA
2710 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 2:21pm
So, do you call each city to make sure?
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theinternetguru
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426 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 2:26pm
Normally you need a license from your primary location of business, not the areas you service. It's the address from which you are based. If you maintain physical locations (local offices) in other areas, though, the local laws may require you to get a license. For a performer who travels, this would probably not apply.
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 6:50pm
Seadog93
I have work in five states (locally), and never heard of such a thing. Is that the way the tax man keeps tabs on magicians out on the COAST?
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jay leslie
V.I.P.
southern california
6316 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 8:22pm
It's becoming more commonplace as the greed of local governments dictates. My advice is not to seek-out press coverage and the powers that be won't know you're there.
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 8:32pm
Jay
When I suggested to keep a low profile last year (asking for cash payments) everybody jumped all over me for cheating on my taxes, and you were one of them.
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SoCalPro
Inner circle
Southern California
1597 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 8:33pm
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On 2011-12-16 18:50, Al Angello wrote:
Seadog93
I have work in five states (locally), and never heard of such a thing. Is that the way the tax man keeps tabs on magicians out on the COAST?
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Ya...funny story about that. I've been a local amusement parks magician for many years. 2 years ago..I get a nice little love letter from that city telling me I need a business licence to perform there AND that I now owed over $600 in back taxes.
To get a licence in MY city...its FIFTY BUCKS!! They want a $115 app fee then another $60 a year for the licence plus back taxes. Funny what Citys will do when they need money.
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 8:40pm
I live in Pennsylvania THANK GOD
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RJE2
Veteran user
383 Posts
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Posted: Dec 16, 2011 10:39pm
Must be an American thing. Never heard of it in Canada. I have a business licence but it is federal and doesn't cost a thing year after year.
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 17, 2011 1:56pm
Where else besides California does this licensing thingy occur?
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 17, 2011 2:16pm
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On 2011-12-16 20:32, Al Angello wrote:
Jay
When I suggested to keep a low profile last year (asking for cash payments) everybody jumped all over me for cheating on my taxes, and you were one of them.
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Your relationship with the government is just that...YOURS. I pay, but I am not you. If you keep a lower profile and it works then cool. Not "everybody" jumped sir. Every situation is different. I for one will not judge.
I do not get the whole license thingie.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 17, 2011 2:27pm
Danny
I am a mere senior citizen birthday party magician, who only does shows on rare occasions, because I love the little children. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
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jay leslie
V.I.P.
southern california
6316 Posts
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Posted: Dec 17, 2011 2:36pm
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On 2011-12-16 20:32, Al Angello wrote:
Jay
When I suggested to keep a low profile last year (asking for cash payments) everybody jumped all over me for cheating on my taxes, and you were one of them.
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What I recall was commenting that the post was on a public forum.(if you get the drift)
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Paddy
Inner circle
Milford OH
1345 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2011 7:12am
The only thing is if your income is from entertaining, you do need records for things like buying cars or other big ticket items and the banks insist on seeing tax returns as proof of income. Now whether these returns are real or not or if you have one set for the government & another for the bank is up to you. As for me, that is between me & my God
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Kevin Viner
Regular user
San Diego, CA
184 Posts
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Posted: Dec 19, 2011 2:16am
I've had to deal with this issue ONCE . . . basically, you're "supposed" to get a business license for every city in which you work. However, it's something that the local governments tend to jump on when they need extra cash. If you have a newspaper article coming out for a certain show, or will be getting big press coverage, expect it to be a possibility. Otherwise, don't worry about it unless contacted.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 2:17am
I should add that I'm not a lawyer nor an accountant, and that it might be wise to consult a professional for more guaranteed advice.
Warmest regards,
Kevin Viner
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 19, 2011 2:41am
It is far easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
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Howie Diddot
Inner circle
The Bay Area of California
2485 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 10:01am
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On 2011-12-19 02:41, Dannydoyle wrote:
It is far easier to get forgiveness than permission.
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Forgiveness from the Government sometimes includes the additional payment of back taxes, interest and penalties; when paid they will forgive you
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 10:15am
As it should.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
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Howie Diddot
Inner circle
The Bay Area of California
2485 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 10:16am
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On 2011-12-17 14:27, Al Angello wrote:
Danny
I am a mere senior citizen birthday party magician, who only does shows on rare occasions, because I love the little children. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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The state does not mind what you are a mere senior citizen birthday party magician, who only does shows on rare occasions, because you love the little children, as long as you pay them what they feel you owe them.
your “mere senior citizen birthday party magician, who only does shows on rare occasions” story will not stick if the tax man takes a look at your web site and see the videos of all your shows that includes Community Events, Corporate Events and Schools
The children's magic party and magic class, where
Howie Didit performs the tricks and then teaches the kids "Howie Didit".
Ventriloquist & Children’s Magician. My lips are not moving and there are all kinds of tricks up my sleeves
Sponsored by http://www.nexusmagicstore.com the Professional Magician’s choice
The west coast dealer for Jeff Jones's Magic backdrops
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 10:37am
Yea they DO want their pound of flesh don't they?
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:05am
I find it hilarious that only California residents have this fear of their local tax collector.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
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SoCalPro
Inner circle
Southern California
1597 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:24am
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On 2011-12-20 11:05, Al Angello wrote:
I find it hilarious that only California residents have this fear of their local tax collector.
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Not sure what you mean there Al...I just hate the fact that they wait 5 yrs and when times get tough..THEN they come after me wanting back licences..back taxes and interest fees. It's just not right.
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Sam Sandler
Inner circle
2054 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:27am
This is odd I have never heard of this and I perform all across the country each year for 20 years and never once heard of this.
all I know is that if I decide to busk while on vacation in maryland or else where on the boardwalk I need to get a local id and vendor liscense but other then that never heard of this.
I am not going to lose any sleep over it nor look into it.
oh wells
sam
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:30am
I respect the tax man and give him his due. Not fear him though.
Jim it is when government is not getting enough tax money in that they tend to these things out of despiration. But the whole blood from a stone thing sort of comes to mind.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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SoCalPro
Inner circle
Southern California
1597 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:42am
Well...unlike some of my Café friends..I'm not making 5000 speaking fees nor do I have several restaurants a week anymore nor are my weekends totally filled with gigs. So you you can see why the $600 bill I got in the mail would be a little unsettling.
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
14031 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 11:47am
I can see it as unsettling for ANYONE sir.
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 3:36pm
Sam and I are in total agreement this license thing is only required in California.
SoCalPro
The only way this license thing will ever effect me is if I move to California, and I'm far too ordinary to do that.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
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Howie Diddot
Inner circle
The Bay Area of California
2485 Posts
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Posted: Dec 21, 2011 2:14am
Al & Sam;
The state you live in has the same rules as California.
This license thing does effect you
Go to this link and read the regulations concerning business licenses
http://www.cityapplications.com/business-licenses/PA-Pennsylvania/biz-Pennsylvania.html
APPLY FOR A Business License
Pennsylvania - PA
"What are the local licensing requirements?
There are no uniform rules regarding local licensing. Whether your business will need additional local licenses, permits, or registrations will depend on the municipality where your business operates. For example, Philadelphia and Harrisburg require that all individuals conducting business in the city, even if they do not keep an office in the city, obtain an annual business privilege license"
The children's magic party and magic class, where
Howie Didit performs the tricks and then teaches the kids "Howie Didit".
Ventriloquist & Children’s Magician. My lips are not moving and there are all kinds of tricks up my sleeves
Sponsored by http://www.nexusmagicstore.com the Professional Magician’s choice
The west coast dealer for Jeff Jones's Magic backdrops
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: Dec 21, 2011 7:57am
Howie
I'll call my accountant later this morning, but there are 48 other states that have not checked in here yet.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
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