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wizardpa
Special user
The New Orleans area
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Posted: Jan 2, 2012 10:42pm
I'm wondering if any other Magicians and Ventriloquists are in my shoes? Even though my wife puts up with my passion for magic and ventriloquism, magic props, and puppets sitting around the house, and me preparing for an upcoming show, she would have no desire to go to a magic or a vent convention.
We have been married for 37 years and we are very compatible, but she would go crazy at a vent/magic convention. Even though I'm sure I would like to go to a convention I also understand that I can't have it all my way.
2 months out the year I'm also busy working at a Haunted house, and in December I work at Santa's Secret Workshop, and while I'm doing this, we hardly see each other.
Anyway, I'm just wondering how other magicians and ventriloquists spouses feel about your passion.
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tommy
Eternal Order
Devil’s Island
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Posted: Jan 3, 2012 5:45am
With regard to magic I think of my wife as a muggle. Magic effects are a strain on the muggle brain and a considerate magician does not show the muggle too many effects.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy
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Brad Burt
Inner circle
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Posted: Jan 3, 2012 11:09am
Don't tell that to all the acts working in Vegas....of course the damage of seeing all that magic could be alleviated by deadening with copious amounts of alcohol. ;-)
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Mr. Mystoffelees
Inner circle
I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
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Posted: Jan 4, 2012 10:57am
Although I am not married, I believe I share your shoes. My "SO" tolerates my magic passion but shares it not a whit. She will go to my shows, but I could never get her to attend even MagiFest, which is right in our hometown.
I find it fun and supportive when she watches me perform, and she always has good feedback that helps me improve. I will take that and be happy. Especially when I consider what it would be like for me to reciprocate with some of HER passions.
Sometimes you just gotta realize when you got a good thing, Matey!
My major disappointment, by the bye, is never having taken up my childhood love of ventriloquism! A situation for which she is no doubt grateful, as at least magic practice can be quiet. Should I warn her that I keep looking at those Axtell goodies with longing and desire? Wanna sell that bird? Oh, well, likely too far down the path of life for any of that, but I envy you!
Tommy: So well stated, I am going to make a plaque of it...
Jim
As I felt the soft, cool mud squish between my toes, I thought "Man, these are not very good shoes" Jack Handey
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Steve_Mollett
Inner circle
Eh, so I've made
2602 Posts
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Posted: Jan 4, 2012 8:19pm
My wife loves what I do.
We have done ghost shows, psychic parties and Harry Potter book-release parties together, me performing magic/mentalism/bizarrism; she reading tarot.
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The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth.
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lynnef
Special user
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Posted: Jan 9, 2012 3:28pm
My wife doesn't share my passion for magic quite the same way as I do; but she is indeed my best critic. She watches for the flash, the script fumble, and challenges the classic force. And she also watches audience response from offstage (when she's in the audience on occasion). No, she doesn't share the passion, but she respects it. And I do not share her passion for beading, art shows, fashion etc... but I do give her respect. Perhaps, Wizardpa, your spouse indeed 'respects' your passion. Because she wouldnt attend a convention doesn't necessarily indicate she only 'puts up' with your passion for magic.
hope it helps all partners. Lynn
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funsway
Inner circle
improbable magic & extraordinary acts
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 6:02am
My first wife of 38 years was impassioned enough about magic to get me to agree NOT to perform professionally (for money on a scheduled basis). She viewed that our budding family should engage in activities that everyone could participate in and enjoy -- that the secluded practice and pursuit of the art would be too exclusive an activity.
Thus, my focus shifted to performing in business and teaching setting in which I was not "a magician" -- but never "on demand" or for pay. Along the way I developed many techiques,sleights and methods as a creative endeavor (not to say original to the art) as pasttime in lonely hotel rooms. This level of "passion" was supported but unseen by spectators. Only after our kids were though college did I start performing publically.
My "mistake" (for those who view it that way) was that while I was overseas during Viet Nam my wife read my entire Tarbel set!
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
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Magicus
Loyal user
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 2:16pm
My wife likes the magical arts but from afar. She has always promoted me to others in conversation but tires of the obsessive talk and thoughts most of us have as dedicated artists. We have an agreement that I don't explain methods unless I am stumped on something and need an 'outsiders' perspective. So it's a bit of a give and take solution for us that works.
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MGCF
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 2:05pm
Very rarely will two people share all of the same interests or obsessions. My wife and I don't, especially when it comes to magic. We work on setting up a balance so that my interests or her interests don't create too much strain on the relationship. We try to balance differing interests with enough common ones to keep the relationship solid. Its worked well for 15 years and we look forward to many more.
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wizardpa
Special user
The New Orleans area
736 Posts
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 3:26pm
One good thing about my situation is that it has allowed me to become very close to my oldest Grand-daughter who is now 11. She has been my assistant for over 4 years now. She even does a few magic tricks now and she also becoming very good at face painting.
I've also started to have my 7 year old Grand-daughter help in my kid shows.
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RJE2
Veteran user
383 Posts
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 5:12pm
I have been performing professionally since the mid 1980's but my wife had never been on a stage or had any interest in magic when we married 10 years ago. Today, we are a 2 person act ( http://www.evansandevans.ca ) with a wide and varied client base.
We turn our road shows into paid holidays. We have regular summer resort clients and spend every weekend all summer at these resorts together.
She loves the conventions (when we get a chance to go to one)and even began her own company to supply sewn magic props since she is an expert seamstress http://www.chameleonfabrications.com
She really surprised me a couple of months ago when she decided she was going to begin a solo act (we don't do birthday party shows) because we were turning down so many requests to do children's birthday party shows. She decided she was going to start booking them and she does her first solo act next weekend!
I've seen a lot of marriages destroyed over the years by a spouse that didn't understand a performer's passion for what they did, so I know I'm one of the lucky ones.
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Lundonia
Regular user
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 6:05pm
My soon to be wife doesn't share my passion but is very supporting. Well, in the way that she will put up with me showing her new and crappy effects after practicing for five minutes. She gives me harsh criticism and I feel bad and start to practice for real until I have the nerve to show it to her again.
We do have another shared passion though, and I try not to let magic take the upper hand on that one.
"Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity - and i'm not sure about the former" - Albert Einstein
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Mr. Mystoffelees
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I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 6:35pm
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On 2012-01-11 17:12, RJE2 wrote:
I have been performing professionally since the mid 1980's but my wife had never been on a stage or had any interest in magic when we married 10 years ago. Today, we are a 2 person act ( http://www.evansandevans.ca ) with a wide and varied client base.
We turn our road shows into paid holidays. We have regular summer resort clients and spend every weekend all summer at these resorts together.
She loves the conventions (when we get a chance to go to one)and even began her own company to supply sewn magic props since she is an expert seamstress http://www.chameleonfabrications.com
She really surprised me a couple of months ago when she decided she was going to begin a solo act (we don't do birthday party shows) because we were turning down so many requests to do children's birthday party shows. She decided she was going to start booking them and she does her first solo act next weekend!
I've seen a lot of marriages destroyed over the years by a spouse that didn't understand a performer's passion for what they did, so I know I'm one of the lucky ones.
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What fun to read this! You are both very lucky indeed! Keep having fun...
Jim
As I felt the soft, cool mud squish between my toes, I thought "Man, these are not very good shoes" Jack Handey
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magicgettogether
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Michigan
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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 9:17am
Here is an article from a wife's point of view
http://topsmag.com/Newest_Tops/?p=5695
I found it humorous in its stereotype boldness, but I suppose it could be offensive to some. Below is a sample of what to expect if you decide to read the article.
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| When we do go out, it is always to call on a magician. My husband wonders with what unfailing instinct I can always pick the house in which the magician resides, once we are in the same neighborhood. If he only were not blinded by that heated anticipation of the trick he is going to see his brother magician do, or the one he is going to do himself, it would be as simple for him as for me. Pick the most dilapidated house on the street, the steps caving in from lack of attention, the lawn growing up in grass a foot high, with a few forlorn stringy haired children with a rather hopeless look on their young faces - there lives the magician. The poor mother, having had to assume not only her own household duties, but those ordinarily allotted to the man also, has far too little time. I think that I could almost without fail pick a magician out of any group of people. He will be the seediest looking, a bit run-down at the heels, and almost invariably says "I seen," "I have saw" or "I done." How well might some of those hours spent with magic catalogs have been used studying grammars. |
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Mr. Mystoffelees
Inner circle
I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 9:53am
Wait! Do magic catalogs have bad "grammars"? What about "grammpars"??
As I felt the soft, cool mud squish between my toes, I thought "Man, these are not very good shoes" Jack Handey
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ViolinKing
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Posted: Mar 6, 2012 2:42pm
If you have netflix you could check out "Dumbstruck" which is a documentary on ventriloquists.
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