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Paul Rathbun
Inner circle
Michigan
1730 Posts
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Posted: Jan 7, 2012 9:34am
It seems like often when I finish card warp by tearing it in half that people will want to see if the pieces match up. The issue is they expect the pieces to match up facing the opposite directions and it can tip the method or at the very least raise suspicion. If I don't put the pieces away I find that people want to see if they match. Is there any other ending to card warp that you would recommend?
Just a note. I find Paul Green's ending actually makes the spectator want to examine it more. So I guess that ending doesn't work for me. Thanks.
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FrenchDrop
Inner circle
I can name that tune in
1662 Posts
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Posted: Jan 7, 2012 10:46am
I haven't done Card Warp in a long time, but my experience was that people found it even more puzzling when it turned out the halves matched.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Michael J
Loyal user
UK
255 Posts
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Posted: Jan 8, 2012 6:48am
Hi Paul Rathbun,
I perform Card Warp regularly using the Michael Close version from his worker’s series.
A long time ago, when I left the two halves on the table, an older child picked them up and sussed out the method. Since then, at the end I simply tear the pieces up into quarters and leave them on the table.
All the best
Mike
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Vlad_77
Inner circle
The Netherlands
3928 Posts
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Posted: Jan 8, 2012 7:01am
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On 2012-01-08 06:48, Michael J wrote:
Hi Paul Rathbun,
I perform Card Warp regularly using the Michael Close version from his worker’s series.
A long time ago, when I left the two halves on the table, an older child picked them up and sussed out the method. Since then, at the end I simply tear the pieces up into quarters and leave them on the table.
All the best
Mike
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I do the same; I refer to these two cards in the specific DECK to be the problem children because they aspire to be quantum physicists instead of magical performers. In that respect I do the warp effect as an example of their difficult nature. Tearing them all into quarters at the end then makes sense and it allows me to use Ortiz's Card Warp deck idea for walkaround! Since I currently do not do a T&R routine there is no disconnect as to why I didn't restore the cards in the CW effect. The presentation works for me.
Ahimsa,
Vlad
PS: I need to look up Michael Close's ending; you have piqued my curiosity.
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Failed Magician
Inner circle
Still working on the DL even after made
1919 Posts
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Posted: Jan 8, 2012 8:35pm
I usually just tear them in half and pull my hands apart so they can see both are facing different direction. Never got a kid or quantum physicists that sussed out the method.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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RevJohn
Inner circle
West Linn, Oregon
2411 Posts
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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 1:30am
What about using Gerard's Stapled Warp?
RevJohn
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Steven Youell
V.I.P.
3866 Posts
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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 3:23am
Under what conditions are you performing this trick?
Formal? Informal? Surrounded? For one person? For three?
I've got a few ways around this, but I need more information before I can answer.
SEY
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MikeTheKid
Loyal user
232 Posts
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:39pm
What I normally do is I tear the card into 4 pieces after reveal the " first two pieces", and hang out to them to examine. And I told them try to put the 4 pieces back together, and they will see its the same card.
It works for me, all they ask is " How did you do that ? "
Hope it helps.
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dlhoyt
Regular user
175 Posts
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 4:27pm
Alain Nu has a finish in which the card is transformed into a card cube.
Wesley James converts the "warped" card into a hypercard by making additional tears and then staples it to the "cover" card.
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rhettbryson
Loyal user
Greenville, SC
245 Posts
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 4:53pm
I have always ended the trick this way.... tearing them apart, holding the parts up and asking "Do you know what we have now?" They usually have no ready answer and I interject...."Trash." With that, I dispose of the cards in my pocket and transition to my next trick. Works for me.
Rhett Bryson
http://eweb.furman.edu/%7Erbryson/magic.html
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Merlinsmagic
Regular user
So. San Francisco, CA
194 Posts
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:02pm
Rhettbryson- love the simple out on yours, a little light joke helps with the mis-direction of the truth ...! LoL
My experience is very much like Frenchdrop's, most of the time people have been much more fascinated with the way the card was reversed, even when they looked at both pieces. I originally would tear off the card & hand them the other half with the other card reversed inside immediately after the tear & as they open up the card I would let them pull out the torn piece & have the place it on the table next to mine & I say "& you want to see the craziest thing about this...." I would then match up the 2 faces on each half to show them torn the same....... sometimes pushing this in they're face would throw them off.
I would let it sink in for a minute, then take & toss the 2 halves into nearby garbage can, etc & move along to another card trick......
I then changed my ending game plan after a couple of little kids question it when I was doing this for the parents (out of the mouth of babe's come truth....LoL), I would ask a spectator to open their palm flat face up, put one card half face up in their palm, place the other half face up with just a little over lap so the 1 tear hides the other tear, have them place their other hand palm down atop the cards & ask them to rub their hands forward & backwards a little, say a magic word "Inverso-Correctivus" & when they opened their hands the torn pieces now match........simple but sneaky way to get past that problem with another miracle !
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AltonThrash
Special user
Ridgeland, MS
575 Posts
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 9:33pm
I love CW and use the Hyperwarp ending by Wesley James.....leaves them with an impossible souvenir...Tom Frame put out a booklet with a nice routine using gaffs. The booklet contains WJ handling if you don't have Enchantments. The Hypercard Project. I think Hocus Pocus has it. I purchased it directly from Tom even though I have Wesley's book.
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AltonThrash
Special user
Ridgeland, MS
575 Posts
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 9:39pm
The Hypercard Project is Tom's ....Enchantments is Wesley's book. I didn't make that too clear
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MeetMagicMike
Special user
Gainesville Fl
976 Posts
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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 2:00am
MerlinsMagic confused me with:
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| ...put one card half face up in their palm, place the other half face up with just a little over lap so the 1 tear hides the other tear, have them place their other hand palm down atop the cards & ask them to rub their hands forward & backwards a little, say a magic word "Inverso-Correctivus" & when they opened their hands the torn pieces now match........ |
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Huh?
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Merlinsmagic
Regular user
So. San Francisco, CA
194 Posts
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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 8:48pm
Sorry, tried to explain something that may not have read the way I was trying to get across.
Just using a finish up method of my own using the 2 torn halves before the spectator(s) had a chance to look at the 2 pieces & maybe notice and wonder why the 2 torn pieces matched....
By placing both torn pieces face up overlapping the torn parts of the cards (so they didn't notice the torn cards matched) & try to give the impression that the torn pieces would have matched as reversed when you tear it & you have now caused the 2 torn cards to "reverse" again & explainable as to why the torn card "now" match....... not that the 2 halves themselves reversed, but the torn parts of each card......
I use the spectator to help this by put the magic happening in they're hands & cover the reason for anyone to suspect how it may done......& keep any further reason to suspect any monkey biz from me like a card switch. I try to handle it the least I can & put everything into they're hands as soon as possible.
If that made it any clearer......?
So far from me doing my ending version, I have had a double whammy to my spectators & they're so twisted that the believe the card reversed, they "think/beleive" the 1st reversed tear matched (half face-half back) & now they (the tears) "reversed" again & the 2 face halves now match back up at the tear.
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MeetMagicMike
Special user
Gainesville Fl
976 Posts
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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 11:07pm
Merlinsmagic,
Actually that makes a lot of sense and sounds very good. I always felt people were a little confused at the end about whether the pieces "should" line up or not.
Magic Mike
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NFW
Special user
UK
836 Posts
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 12:36pm
Always use Bill Goodwins Siamese twins and end with tearing into four - works for me..
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Paul Rathbun
Inner circle
Michigan
1730 Posts
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 12:53pm
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On 2012-01-16 03:23, Steven Youell wrote:
Under what conditions are you performing this trick?
Formal? Informal? Surrounded? For one person? For three?
I've got a few ways around this, but I need more information before I can answer.
SEY
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I perform this table hopping usually for 2-4 people. I like the idea of just calling it "trash" and pocketing the pieces and moving on.
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204rags
New user
41 Posts
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Posted: Mar 1, 2012 11:55am
When I do card warp I have never had a problem with anyone in the audience wanting to see if the torn ends match. I do it for them. I do a business card warp which is actually to me rather effective because if can be done with common everyday objects similar to playing cards.
Magically, Bill Ragsdale
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MagicJuggler
Special user
Anchorage, AK
918 Posts
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:53am
I've always re-oriented the card and showed that the edges match, and because it's I'm pointing it out to them and answering their question before it's asked out loud it kind of derails the doubt and thus stops people from thinking much further about it. I've rarely had anyone challange me on the fact that the tears should match the other way if it was really reversed. In fact I think it's happend to me twice, and I've done card warp A LOT over the years in three different variations. (The Michael Close routine is my favorite)
Matthew Olsen
www.mattolsenmagic.com
I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable.
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MJ Marrs
Special user
Los Angeles
840 Posts
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Posted: Apr 21, 2012 3:57pm
Mike Close's ending for his Dr. Strangetrick is about as cool of an idea that one could ever perform.
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Brainbu$ter
Regular user
Indianapolis, IN
118 Posts
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Posted: May 1, 2012 3:10pm
Usually when a spectator says, "I figured it out," it either means they found a youtube tutorial of a similar trick, or they saw a flash. It's important in Card Warp to be careful with the torn card, at the outset. It's easy to flash that. A spectator might notice something looks weird, and only after matching them up at the end connect the dots and conclude correctly the method. However, if it looks natural from the start, it only adds to the mystery. Most of my spectators have taken the pieces, and reversed one and fit them together. Then they froth at the mouth. This was one of the few tricks which impressed my older brother, with a Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics. Maybe it's especially fascinating for scientists.
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Ryan Bliss
Regular user
129 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 5:57pm
I highly recommed Martin Cox's card warp routine. At the end. both cards are examinable. I think its called king of twisted
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Jeff
Inner circle
Orlando, FL
1215 Posts
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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 9:04am
Ryan, Martins routine is called "King of Warped" and will be in my new book "The Cardwarp Tour" coming out very soon. As far as endings for Cardwarp, there are a number of different endings in the book that solve the problem of the spectator wanting to see the pieces at the end.
BTW, the book will officially be released at the Genii Convention in October, I will have a booth there and will sign books for anyone interested.
You can check out the not quit finished website for the book and download some sample pages or pre-order and save at http://www.thecardwarptour.com
Jeff Pierce
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JJKnight
New user
52 Posts
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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 10:29am
I must admit I did not know of card warp (I'm a noob). So what do I do? I google it. I was looking for discussions that would point me in the right direction to learn it. I expected youtube videos of exposure (which I usually ignore because they don't credit effects, the credits usually point to an awesome book) but I did find a wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_warp So I'm readying the entry and it is perfect, it starts with who created it and gives a summary of the effect. Heck they even mention some books and videos that feature it (really got to get Michael Ammar's "Easy To Master Card Miracles") but then they begin to expose the creation of the gaff!!! What the heck man?!?!?
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ThePhoenix
New user
Bécancour
38 Posts
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Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:02am
Brainbu$ter,
I own a Ph.D. in Nuclear engineering and I can tell you that the first time I did see the CW I was baffled and reviewing all the physics laws to find a scientific clue... 
Mike
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zmg013
New user
51 Posts
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Posted: Jun 25, 2012 5:58pm
There ae other versions of card warp that leave the card in quarters so that it is even more unbelievable.
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Steve Landavazo
Special user
Northern California
654 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2012 4:22pm
Hi Paul! Awesome question! You know, its weird you asked this because I experience the same problem. I hope this part makes sense... I started making sure my tears were right on, so if I decided to just hand out the cards when the effect was finished, as if I expected the spectator to scrutinize the heck out of the cards, it even blows their minds more... In other words, I act as if I want them to examine the cards...Almost like I can't wait for them to. Make sure your tear is straight and precise, and when they examine the cards they be even more blown away. If the tear is aligned right it adds a huge element because in their minds, the cards really did reverse themselves... PM me if I'm not making sense. Sometimes I suck at explaining things.... Steve
Courage is the willingness to be afraid and act anyway!
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Mr. Mystoffelees
Inner circle
I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
3357 Posts
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Posted: Jul 8, 2012 9:13am
Agree with Steve. I actually pre-score the card to get a really straight tear and do a pre-tear...
As I felt the soft, cool mud squish between my toes, I thought "Man, these are not very good shoes" Jack Handey
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MagicJuggler
Special user
Anchorage, AK
918 Posts
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Posted: Jul 9, 2012 6:33am
I remember doing the effect for a christmas party for a big engineering firm, and the trick when over really well with all those engineers, they simply couldn't figure out how it was done. I think they were really over thinking the effect and so couldn't imagine that the solution could be so simple. One person after the show was asking if it used some obscure topographical principle and was really going into some scientific theories as to how it might be done, all of which missed the mark. It was great.
Matthew Olsen
www.mattolsenmagic.com
I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable.
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