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MagicSteve84
Loyal user
266 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 2:10pm
I'm intested as well Gabelson. Please post or PM if you have a solution. Thanks!
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DougNicols
Special user
765 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 3:18pm
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On 2012-05-09 17:09, WARD.GS wrote:
Must admit to being very disappointed with timeless due to the prep. being lost very easily.
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Use a watch box (the type you receive when buying a new watch). Or roll up your sleeves.
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kusoyon
New user
Muskegon, Michigan
73 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:39pm
I really enjoyed Rattled and worked very well....no problems
"The closer you look; the less you see"
H. Blackston Jr.
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equivoque
Elite user
483 Posts
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Posted: May 13, 2012 1:29pm
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On 2012-01-11 09:50, GaryLee wrote:
Little Man was the most unethical advertised piece of garbage ever. The false advertising, claims that no strings or magnets were used, then change the ad to remove no magnets used. "YES, HE'S MOVING FORWARD AND ACTUALLY WALKING... ONE ASTONISHING STEP AT A TIME!" As we know it glides using magnets, just like everyone suspected right from the start. No mystery to how it's done because it's the first thought that comes to many minds when they see the demo.
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It looked like unpratical garbage in the Demmo!
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On 2012-01-14 12:44, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Haunted - too unreliable for professional use.
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And when it does work, it is so unimpressive.
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WARD.GS
New user
5 Posts
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Posted: May 13, 2012 7:11pm
Hi all. Just a word to say I have to disagree with the haunted feedback. In my experience it is a reliable and fairly dramatic hands off effect. I use it almost as per the card on box demo and it works well. Maybe just persevere and give it another go. Always worth it when you know other( s) have success with it. Regards, ward.
Wardy
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The Mighty Fool
Inner circle
I feel like a big-top tent having
1768 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 11:23pm
I wasnt quite stupid enough to buy little man, so my two are
Sidewinder: all-time most agnly effect ever
Cash-flow: after 2 uses it either breaks or becomes permanently creased.
Everybody wants to beleive.....we just help them along.
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jugglestruck
Special user
Wales
946 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 4:59am
I was really disappointed with Haunted, unreliable performance on different surfaces that I could not overcome.
www.jugglestruck.co.uk
www.lukecloseupmagician.com
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Gordothemagicguy
New user
2 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 10:23pm
I pre-ordered "DRIFT" from "The Merchant of Magic" and thought it could be pretty cool. Boy was I duped!!! It took quite a while to arrive with the DVD case all broken. There were Two "elements" included and most of the time when you receive two elements you are to mix them (which I did) It just ruined the thing. I contacted Dominic at Merchant of Magic, who simply said "Sorry Buddy, you're out of luck!" Even after offering to pay for another set of the "stuff" He said the Ukranian dudes who came up with this idea would not send me another. I opened a dispute with Pay Pal and immediately got an email from the Merchant of Magic saying if I would close the dispute he would have one sent out right away. That was two months ago!!! I think he just wanted to shut me up. Now I can't reopen a dispute and my Bank say's they can't do anything after60 days. First of all The method of this effect is more than Lame! It is just super angular and doesn't even work most of the time! You have to use a hard surface and the "clean up" as well as the set up are pretty obvious. Don't waste your money and Certainly don't do business with this VERY Unhelpful company!!! The WORSTE COMPANY I have ever dealt with!
If you want to do the effect just buy a stick of gum. It's a whole lot cheaper than the $60.00 I paid!
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Rory111
New user
53 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 2:31pm
I agree... DRIFT is a wasted purchase for your magic dollars... save your money!
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zmagicleez
Regular user
121 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 7:53am
This has been a great thread! Unfortunately we live in an age now where dvd production is so good, the effects can look incredible. Be careful!
It's a small world... but you wouldn't want to hoover it.
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Vick
Inner circle
It's taken me 9 years to make
1046 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 10:51am
Has anyone noticed .....
NO BOOKS ARE MENTIONED HERE AS MOST DISAPPOINTING TRICK OF 2011!!
What does that tell you?
Perhaps consider what you are wasting money on ... and make the investment in good books!!
but then again, most of the "tricks" being discussed here ... will never see the light of day in performances
and go to lectures so you can actually se the effects performed and speak with the creators
Unique, Thought Provoking & Amazing Magical Entertainment Experiences
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Blog of a real world working magician
Magic would be great, if not for magicians
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GaryLee
Loyal user
276 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 12:27pm
Do they even make books anymore? (lol)
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DougNicols
Special user
765 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 1:11pm
Haunted. Was terrible. Hocus Pocus just recently posted it for half price during their weekend sale, I would avoid it until they start clearing it out for $49 or less (IMHO), which is only a matter of time considering how bad it is.
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FrenchDrop
Inner circle
I can name that tune in
1662 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 2:46pm
Doug, what Haunted are you talking about? Peter Eggink's Haunted appears to be selling everywhere for $35...hasn't it always?
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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DougNicols
Special user
765 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 3:05pm
HauntING, not HauntED. Sorry:
http://www.taylorimagineering.com/products/haunting.php
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On 2012-05-17 14:46, FrenchDrop wrote:
Doug, what Haunted are you talking about? Peter Eggink's Haunted appears to be selling everywhere for $35...hasn't it always?
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Miraclemakers
Special user
INA
637 Posts
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Posted: May 18, 2012 11:20pm
I like rattled, but Haunted, yes... never use that trick..
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gabelson
Inner circle
conscientious observer
1819 Posts
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Posted: May 19, 2012 4:05pm
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On 2012-05-10 17:31, WARD.GS wrote:
" I must have performed Timeless on at least 100 occasions so far. The spectator sees nothing except what they expect to see..."......Gabelson please let me know how you get round the problem I mention above. If u've performed 100's of times you must have a way round this. Pm me if ok ? Thanks.
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Not quite sure what "problem" you're referring to. The illusion works perfectly, even up close. I've had people stare for a few seconds to make sure they 'got it right', and nothing has ever aroused suspicion. If your prep work is good, no one will ever be the wiser.
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11226 Posts
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Posted: May 20, 2012 8:58pm
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On 2012-05-02 23:37, saysold1 wrote:
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On 2012-05-01 20:35, daffydoug wrote:
OK. I have little money to spend on magic this year. I want to make all my purchases wise purchases. So I would really like to see this thread continue with several more suggestions on effects to wisely avoid. I will not purchase "Rattled." I.R. is in. (If I could come up with the bucks.)
Somebody mentioned "Ink."
Can someone tell me more about that? Is it really bad? I think the effect looks great in the demo, but they all do, right? I hope someone can further enlighten me, because I had my heart set on purchasing that one.
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Doug-
As I recall the feedback on Ink was generally just fair - and comments that the gimmick was somewhat visible. Don't have it - just recalling the thread.
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I'm holding back on getting it, so far. I am beginning to think it's just a pipe dream.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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manipulator
Veteran user
Houston, Texas
319 Posts
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Posted: May 23, 2012 2:55pm
I vote for Clutch by Oz Pearlman.
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brehaut
Inner circle
kentucky
1847 Posts
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Posted: May 24, 2012 1:44pm
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On 2012-05-23 14:55, manipulator wrote:
I vote for Clutch by Oz Pearlman.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I can tell you when I use to perform card magic I got amazing responses using this. Also, it taught me a method to locate a card that I still use today. I highly recommend it.
Twitter: @GSBKY and Author of "Inspired"
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Burf
New user
Adelaide, South Australia
61 Posts
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Posted: May 24, 2012 7:51pm
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On 2012-05-23 14:55, manipulator wrote:
I vote for Clutch by Oz Pearlman.
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Maybe you performance is not up to scratch?
Clutch is an excellent effect with the right presentation.
You start clean, end clean, can use a borrowed deck, no gimicks required, easy to lean, easy to perform.
If I paid twice as much for it, I would still be happy.
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Burf
New user
Adelaide, South Australia
61 Posts
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Posted: May 24, 2012 8:02pm
My vote would have to go to Slyder by Jay Sankey.
This was bad for so many reasons, the gimicks received did not match and were poorley finished.
All the hype about using a common object... really who has seen paper clips like that before? Certainly not around my home or office, bring out one of those bad boys and the heat is on immediately.
An old trick with a different object, very disapointing.
Based my purchase on Mr. Sankeys older products, most of which were very good, but his recent stuff seems like he is just going for the quck buck and tunring out rubbish.
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slyhand
Inner circle
Good ole Virginia
1746 Posts
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Posted: May 24, 2012 9:23pm
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On 2012-05-23 14:55, manipulator wrote:
I vote for Clutch by Oz Pearlman.
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Yup, no problem with Clutch. I need to do it more often. It kills.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
Alec
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bsears
Inner circle
1006 Posts
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Posted: May 25, 2012 4:00pm
Had no idea what Clutch was until I googled it. I was shocked at how many kids are teaching the trick on-line. I suppose that is due to the ease of the method.
Anyway, as far as the effect goes, it certainly isn't something I would buy. It's very old. The method is in Tarbell. Seriously.
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brehaut
Inner circle
kentucky
1847 Posts
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Posted: May 26, 2012 9:53pm
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On 2012-05-25 16:00, bsears wrote:
Had no idea what Clutch was until I googled it. I was shocked at how many kids are teaching the trick on-line. I suppose that is due to the ease of the method.
Anyway, as far as the effect goes, it certainly isn't something I would buy. It's very old. The method is in Tarbell. Seriously.
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Yeah, the method is old but I can tell you there is much more to the effect than what the method is. Oz does an amazing job of going beyond the method. Clutch is a bargain. Anyone getting it for free off the internet is not only doing something immoral but getting an inferior version of the effect.
Twitter: @GSBKY and Author of "Inspired"
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brehaut
Inner circle
kentucky
1847 Posts
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Posted: May 26, 2012 10:02pm
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On 2012-05-25 16:00, bsears wrote:
Had no idea what Clutch was until I googled it. I was shocked at how many kids are teaching the trick on-line. I suppose that is due to the ease of the method.
Anyway, as far as the effect goes, it certainly isn't something I would buy. It's very old. The method is in Tarbell. Seriously.
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One other point---don't think you should be critcal of an effect that you did not buy or even watched---but based on what some kids posted online and that you found after you googled it. Not right
Twitter: @GSBKY and Author of "Inspired"
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11226 Posts
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Posted: May 27, 2012 7:35am
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On 2012-05-17 07:53, zmagicleez wrote:
This has been a great thread! Unfortunately we live in an age now where dvd production is so good, the effects can look incredible. Be careful!
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Glad I have read this thread, because that effect certainly looked pretty cool on the video.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Zuke
Regular user
110 Posts
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Posted: May 27, 2012 10:28pm
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On 2012-05-17 10:51, Vick wrote:
Has anyone noticed .....
NO BOOKS ARE MENTIONED HERE AS MOST DISAPPOINTING TRICK OF 2011!!
What does that tell you?
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It tells me that people have read the topic of the thread and responded accordingly. I'm sure if there was a 'worst book' thread, you'd find posts about books but not about props.
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bsears
Inner circle
1006 Posts
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Posted: May 29, 2012 2:43pm
Brehaut - I actually did watch Oz's demo of it. I think he does a fine job of it, for what it is. Just my personal opinion that it isn't worth buying. Perhaps I would feel different if it were included on a dvd with other material. It's not strong enough (or unique enough) to stand alone, imo.
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Bardo
New user
England
45 Posts
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Posted: May 30, 2012 3:09am
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On 2012-05-15 22:23, Gordothemagicguy wrote:
I pre-ordered "DRIFT" from "The Merchant of Magic" and thought it could be pretty cool. Boy was I duped!!! It took quite a while to arrive with the DVD case all broken. There were Two "elements" included and most of the time when you receive two elements you are to mix them (which I did) It just ruined the thing. I contacted Dominic at Merchant of Magic, who simply said "Sorry Buddy, you're out of luck!" Even after offering to pay for another set of the "stuff" He said the Ukranian dudes who came up with this idea would not send me another. I opened a dispute with Pay Pal and immediately got an email from the Merchant of Magic saying if I would close the dispute he would have one sent out right away. That was two months ago!!! I think he just wanted to shut me up. Now I can't reopen a dispute and my Bank say's they can't do anything after60 days. First of all The method of this effect is more than Lame! It is just super angular and doesn't even work most of the time! You have to use a hard surface and the "clean up" as well as the set up are pretty obvious. Don't waste your money and Certainly don't do business with this VERY Unhelpful company!!! The WORSTE COMPANY I have ever dealt with!
If you want to do the effect just buy a stick of gum. It's a whole lot cheaper than the $60.00 I paid!
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Sounds like you have really been duped. I guess the lesson learnt is to only close the paypal dispute AFTER you have received the replacement.
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