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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 14, 2012 11:58pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Are there any videos of anyone doing a flower act? I am learning more about feather flowers myself. Following is a link of me starting a flower act last year: http://bloomfield-mi.patch.com/articles/photo-gallery-labor-day-picnic-at-temple-israel#photo-7631233 There were a lot of oohs and aahs. Look at the little girl covering up her face on the left of me wearing purple in the front row when I made the Botania appear.

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Darkwing

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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 12:37am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Darkwing  

Dynamike,

That is a great pic. Richard Hughes has said for years that the audience loves flash and it looks as if you delivered my friend.

Richard has a great video of a lecture he did at the Magic Castle where he goes over feather flower productions which I highly recommend.

Check out some of David and Dania's act on YouTube. Some great flower work on with that act.

David
Bill Hegbli

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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 6:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Hegbli  

Feather Flowers have the same drawback as many kinds of acts, they are very expensive to acquire, maintain, transport and present. Plus the belief that they are not real flowers thus other magicians dismiss them.

If you are truly interested in creating a flower act, here is what I would do. The remaining flower producers in the U.S are Richard Hughes, Abbott's Magic and Owen's Magic. Richard Hughes has a trick catalog on disc. Send for it, it is a demo of his flower effects, not a show. Check out Abbott's Catalog and/or contact Greg Bordner at Abbott's and see what they still offer. Owen's magic sells a Garden of Flowers act, and Abbott's use to have a version as well. These were built around a Trellis as the center piece.

As you are a fully functioning company, I see not reason why you should not take a business trip or two to meet with Richard Hughes and Abbott's to research what they can offer in this regard.

As far as Acts go in my era, I only remember seeing Harry Blackstone Jr. present his flower act while I was at some magic conventions. I also seen a very young magician present an act of several Botania's. It was very effective and has stood out in my memory all these years.

I agree that audiences love color and action in the props. Some of the success of Feather Flower acts is that every production is an applause cue for the audience.

Goldfinger and Dove use to do a single flower production in their act, ending with only a bouquet of spring flowers at the end. Very nice routine.
Jimmy Joza

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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 3:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jimmy Joza  

I will also recommend Richard Hughes for feather flowers. I have had a couple of his bouquets for about 8 or 9 years and they are still almost as good as new. They also present as fuller bouquets as tends to use a lot of green feathers for leaves and the flowers themselves (depending on the flower) can be 6 or 7 inches wide. BTW, Richard sells a simple routine called (Flower) Hoopla which I sometimes use to produce a flower bouquet.... I usually alternate between that and Patrick Page's Barehanded Flower Production.

You can see an online video of Richard Hughes Products demo at
http://www.hughesmagic.com/video.html

Marc Gilday has recreated a version of Blackstone's Enchanted Garden quick glimpse of this can be seen on his production video at times 3:20 and 3:53
http://gildaymagic.com/iPad/productionfootage.html

A flower act with basically only one or two flowers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iMQcE0ERN0

Have fun with it Dinamike. Eye candy does tend to play well with an audience.

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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 8:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Wow. Great info guys.

I have seen Richard's DVD on You Tube. I like his 16 bloom from the sleeve the most. He also gave me a DVD of his products when I seen him at Abbotts Get Together last year.

I did go to Abbotts a couple of times within 60 days to talk Greg about the flowers. I just ordered another one from him last week when I was there. It should be ready in about 4 weeks.

I am working on a flower act theme. All the flowers are not feathered. The Dancing Lit Rose will be part of it.

Especially thanks for all the information dealing with videos.

Dynamike
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Larry Barnowsky

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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 3:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Larry Barnowsky  

I saw Harry Blackstone Jr. on Broadway and besides vanishing an elephant, he did a beautiful production of feather flowers including botanias. In the Playbill, Abbott Magic was given credit for the flower props.
Classic magic act.

Larry

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hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 8:16am    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

I am sorry but Abbott's did not make the flower props for Blackstone. The original set was made by Owens. Later and long before Broadway, Marie Marshall and myself redid the entire flower sequence.
I have recently recreated the entire act for Marc Gilday of Rhode Island.
Richard

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 8:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicians  

I have a local act who does flowers, and I am amazed at the reaction to a simple botania.

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Lars

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 8:58am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lars  

Have a look at this act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIr9XGb5Bw

It was done by a friend of mine, who is sadly not long with us, Jorgen Samson from Denmark.

I saw this act live on several occasions and it was amazing how much “stuff” was left on the stage when he had finished.

Lars
Harry Murphy

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 9:51am    Harry Murphy is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Harry Murphy  

Richard has said it several times here on the Café that the production of flowers gets strong reactions from lay audiences. Ian’s reaction is pretty typical of magicians watching those reactions for the first time.

I took a bunch of (non magic) friends to see the Blackstone Jr. show in Washington D.C. a couple of decades ago. They remarked to two segments/tricks after the show. The first was the floating light bulb segment/trick and the other was the flower segment. Of the two the flower segment of his show got the most discussion and seemed to be appreciated the most. I started using the Pat Page double bouquet production in every family show from that time. It pretty much became my opener.

I have an old Abbott’s “Junior Garden of Flowers” (four bouquets from a foulard) that I bought in the early 70s. I used it whenever I need to lengthen a show and it always amazes me how strongly it plays. The dang thing is pretty much self-working.

This past Holiday season I was hired to perform at a company banquet. They wanted a 45-minute stand-up act. I included the Garden of Flowers and got a great round of applause.

I saw Richard do his flower act at MAES convention several years ago. It was a highlight of the show for me. He filled the stage to overflowing with flowers!

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Rainboguy

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 10:58am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rainboguy  

Richard:

Gilday's act is beautiful and reminds me of Harry Blackstone, Jr.'s stage persona minus the floating lightbulb, Casadega Cabinet, and, of course, Gay.

Richard, since you're a modest guy, and I don't mind one bit being a cheerleader for you, my friend, please allow me to say that the feather flowers you manufactured for Marc Gilday are simply spectacular and are unequalled in magic history, in my opinion.

Quick question: Isn't there a vid around somewhere of Harry Blackstone Jr'.s PBS Performance from Minneapolis? If my memory serves me correctly, that video also contained the complete Blackstone Garden of Flowers routine.....magnificent routine........it's BIG and the Ultimate Closer!!!
hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 11:44am    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

Yes, there are two different videos of the act. One was the HBO magic special "Blackstone on Tour", That version of the Enchanted Garden was not exactly what was usually performed. It was reblocked for the special. The PBS video is version of the act most are familiar with. Gilday's tribute is loosely based on Harry's act with some subtle differences.

Harry, thanks for your kind words.

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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 5:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Quote:

On 2012-01-15 20:35, Dynamike wrote:
I have seen Richard's DVD on You Tube. I like his 16 bloom from the sleeve the most.


My bad. I meant his 18 bloom from sleeve.

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Scott Alexander

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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 8:47pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Scott Alexander  

Richard made all the props for this act I did a few years back.

http://youtu.be/AVXZ7Vd8UEc

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Darkwing

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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 8:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Darkwing  

Very nice Scott. Good job to you and Richard. I want one.
Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 10:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Wow! How wonderful! I never seen such a beautiful act before. Thanks for the link.

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JamesinLA

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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 12:27am    Reply with quote   View Profile of JamesinLA  

The video act reminds me of the Banana Man in concept. Very fun. I too have noticed the strong reaction with producing a bontania. I plan on getting a nice one when I can afford it.

Jim

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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 5:15am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Quote:

On 2012-01-25 00:27, JamesinLA wrote:
I plan on getting a nice one when I can afford it.


Doesn't everyone, James?

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hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 8:20am    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

Banana Man in concept...really? Obviously, you did not understand the concept of the Banana Man act (which was imitating musical instruments) or Blackstone's flower act.

I know the flowers are a dated act in some ways but properly presented, it still gets a heck of a reaction. The problem is the guys who 1} don't know how to pace and present the flowers and 2}They try to go the cheap route with lousy props. Unfortunately in the later, there are far too many of these guys using cheap props and knockoffs.

Scott did a great job with the flowers in his show. It consistently got great reviews. One of the reasons he put it in was he knew the value of the flower act from having seen Raymonde perform his act years ago.

I will be the first to admit that flowers don't really fool anyone for the most part. It is a flash act with lots of color that is just pretty for an audience to look at. "How did you get it all in there?" is the basic question in most laymen's mind when looking at a feather act. And when you use cheap feather dusters, there isn't much of an impact there.

Richard

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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 9:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

The flowers you made look realistic in Scott's act.

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JamesinLA

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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 2:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of JamesinLA  

Richard,
I'm talking about the Banana Man who was on the Sullivan show. He walked out with a big coat on and just kept pulling stuff out of his clothes, finally culminating in a small train that all the other stuff was piled into. I think the "concept" was a massive production from just what he could wear. That's what the video posted above reminded me of.

Jim

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TommyJ

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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 7:16am    Reply with quote   View Profile of TommyJ  

Quote:

On 2012-01-17 08:58, Lars wrote:
Have a look at this act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIr9XGb5Bw

It was done by a friend of mine, who is sadly not long with us, Jorgen Samson from Denmark.

I saw this act live on several occasions and it was amazing how much “stuff” was left on the stage when he had finished.

Lars



Now THAT was entertaining!
hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 28, 2012 7:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

Here is the Link to the 2009 IBM convention in which Marc Gilday did his tribute to Blackstone's Enchanted Garden the first time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpCaDF4ctg.

There was less than 30 days to put this act together thus the Girl to Botania could not be finished in time. Marc and I were in PA looking at the original large Blackstone props. It had been many years since I remade them and I needed to check a few things out. We drove to my house and got in very late. We woke the next morning and went out to get some breakfast. When we got back on my phone was a missed call with the caller ID....H. Blackstone Jr... Talk about eriee. I callled Gay and she explained what was going on in Reno. Marc said he would do it and I quickly worked on finishing up the items needed for the act. The flowers were done for the Girl to Botania but we could not get the big botania cones finished in time.

If you ask about the durability of flowers, look at the four big bouquets Marc produces from the shawl. I did not have time to make up new ones so I found a set of bouquets made by Horace and Marie Marshall in 1960's and they were used. Even 40 year old bouquets look better than 90% of the junk being imported into this country right now.

I wrote the rough script on the plane on the way out. Marc did a great job learning and deliverying it in such a short time.

Richard

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JamesinLA

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Posted: Jan 28, 2012 12:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of JamesinLA  

Thanks for sharing that, Richard. That water bowl/foutain was yours as well wasn't it?

Jim

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hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 28, 2012 1:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

Yes, it was a special one that was made larger with a higher spray.

Richard

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JamesinLA

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Posted: Jan 28, 2012 5:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of JamesinLA  

I did notice that it sprayed a lot higher than the one you made for Lance Burton.

Jim

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Dynamike

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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 1:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

What brand flowers are being used in the following? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-U-gNxLOWg&feature=related

At first when I saw him doing the Dancing Rose, I was afraid our acts were going to be similar because I have the Dancing Rose in the new act I am putting together.

When I fist saw him take out the first feather flowers I told myself his act will be lousy with cheap flowers. I see I was wrong.
Quote:

On 2012-01-28 13:15, hugmagic wrote:
Yes, it was a special one that was made larger with a higher spray.

Richard


Looks excellent. I was not thinking about using one in my act until I saw yours. If I purchase yours to use in my future award winning magic act of flowers, will that make me a copy cat?

Dynamike
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Bill Hegbli

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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 2:39pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Hegbli  

There are feather flower makers in England. Those look like the others I have seen used by other English performers. There has never been a name related to the flowers from Europe. When Supreme Magic Company was in business, they sold their brand of feather flowers, which looked very much like the ones in the video. They seem to skimp on the flower part of the petals for some reason.
hugmagic

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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 8:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of hugmagic  

You are only a copy cat if you do exactly as others do. Put your own originality it to it and it will be yours. It is how you move, the music and blocking, that makes the act or routine entertaining.

Richard

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Dynamike

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 3:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dynamike  

Great. I will put your Water Bowl Production on my wish list.

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