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Hugh Entwistle
Regular user
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 6:01am
Hey guys, my favourite rope routine is "Fiber Optics" by RIchard Sanders, I was wondering what rope routines get you guys excited, strictly rope routines not ring on rope
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volto
Special user
603 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 6:55am
I do two - "Rope In" by Aldo Colombini (from his "Roped In" DVD), and Jim Cellini's routine, taught on his "Art of Street Performing" DVD set, in Volume 2. Cellini says this was originally a Slydini routine. Both routines are ungimmicked. The Colombini routine can be done with or without scissors, so if there are very small kids involved - or I don't want to carry scissors - or I want to be able to use the same ropes several times - that's the one I'll do. You can also easily involve volunteers in both routines, with a bit of thought. Both routines have multiple phases, involving the rope being cut and restored, and three seperate ropes changing lengths. They're less "flourishy" than a lot of the Fiber Optics material. The Cellini routine seems stronger magically to me, the Colombini routine is still very strong but has a more comedy feel. They both work really well for me. I love to see rope routines live, it's a great form of magic, always so surprising and magical.
So Fiber Optics has a lot of great material on it. What do you do?
Actually, here's a clip of Slydini doing his rope routine on the Dick Cavett show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87oPCVBawjI - it starts at 5:10 and continues here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srG2XoHqobk
Cellini's routine has a few differences but that's pretty much the basis of it. Just beautiful.
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magicians
Inner circle
Teacher and Legend
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 8:28am
I have been doing most of Fiber Optics since before Sanders was born.
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bowers
Inner circle
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 11:04am
I guess perfessors nighmare would
be my favorite one.it is always
in my show.
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Pete Biro
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 11:37am
Harold Sterling's "Short and Long Rope", and sometimes "Neff's Miracle Rope".
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Dougini
Inner circle
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 12:05pm
Cut & Restored Rope.
Not the traditional method, though. I've adapted the Jack Miller Hold-Out method, and it's clean and fool-proof! When I'm not wearing a jacket I've always liked Daryl's teaching of Professor's Nightmare.
Doug
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hp
New user
80 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 12:12pm
I vote for Professor's Nightmare too. It is a great trick, there are many different routines available for it (I like one in Pallbearer's Review) and it provides a great opportunity for developing your own entertainng patter.
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AngeloR
Veteran user
343 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 1:46pm
I have recently started working on Whit Haydn's "Mongolian Pop Knot". It's definitely a worker! It is available directly from Whit himself.
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MuleePete
Loyal user
272 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 2:20pm
Full Circle Routine by L.C. Collier as a $5 download from Lybrary.com.
Pete
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12919 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 2:23pm
I with Pete Biro on this one, nothing beats Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick/Routine. Nothing!!
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donny
New user
Denver
83 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2012 2:52pm
Paul Green has a good routine that cuts the rope several times, then ends w/ Professor's Nightmare on his In the Trenches DVD. This PN routine fooled me as a Magician, because of the rope clipping in the previous routine.
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Sealegs
Inner circle
The UK, Portsmouth
1814 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 7:11am
As the original poster has 'Fibre Optics' as their favourite routine I'm taking it that by 'routine' they mean, favourite series of rope effects sequenced together, rather than, favourite routined presentation of an individual rope effect.
In this context I think it would be something I saw when I was about 19 at a lecture given by Harold Taylor. It is the cut and restored sequence he presented and was in his lecture notes. I'm not sure if they are available anywhere but the routining was such that each cut and restore was very clean open and direct. I also liked that the routine didn't wander off into other plot lines. Another feature I liked about the routine was that each 'cut and restore' had a different method with each method leading into and setting up the next.
Interestingly I haven't seen anyone other than Harold Taylor, who has long since died, perform this routine. Maybe it's time to look out/hunt down his old lecture notes.
Neal Austin
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Walking Bob
Veteran user
385 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 12:01pm
Café Members
One of my favorites is PNM as I do a cut and restored to set up for the effect right in front of the spectators. After the cut and restored I go into a magician in trouble theme which has played very well for me for a number of years.
I would be interested in where to find information on Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick/Routine. I figure if it is good enough for Pete, it must be special.
Thanks in advance and have a nice day,
Walking Bob in Iowa
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Walking Bob
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 12:03pm
Café Members
One of my favorites is PNM as I do a cut and restored to set up for the effect right in front of the spectators. After the cut and restored I go into a magician in trouble theme which has played very well for me for a number of years.
I would be interested in where to find information on Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick/Routine. I figure if it is good enough for Pete, it must be special.
Thanks in advance and have a nice day,
Walking Bob in Iowa
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yin_howe
Special user
Malaysia
550 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 12:27pm
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On 2012-02-06 12:01, Walking Bob wrote:
I would be interested in where to find information on Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick/Routine. I figure if it is good enough for Pete, it must be special.
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I would like to know too.
"Talent without passion is talent wasted.."
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4853 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 12:45pm
It is still sold by Abbott's as "Bill Neff's Miracle Rope" trick.
ttp://www.abbottmagic.com/Miracle-Rope-by-Bill-Neff-ABBmirropnef.htm
There is an old thread discussing it found at:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=380607&forum=9
Dick Barry sells his own version of the trick called "Renaissance Rope" and has a video of his performance on his website (look under "Great Tricks".
www.dickbarrymagic.com/
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12919 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:45pm
Harold Sterling Short and Long Rope is a manuscript that was sold years ago. I believe Abbott's still sell it, and it is published in the Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic.
Harold Stering describes the trick with 2 children volunteers, but it works great with only one adult spectator as well.
I just checked Abbott's web site, it is not listed, but that does not mean they are not selling it, check their online catalog or email them, as it was a standard item for many years.
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Neff's Miracle Rope Trick is a cut and instant visual restoration of a length of rope. It is not a comedy routine. The magician is holding a length of rope between his hands, a spectator cuts the rope in the middle. The magician raises his arms up tossing the ends of the rope so they are near each other and the rope is restored, still with the middle portion of the rope being held in his hands. The rope can be inspected at this point or thrown out.
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4853 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:03pm
I finally tracked down the reference for Harold Sterling's "Short and Long Rope Mystery". It is on page of the Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks for Magicians compiled by Stewart James (Dover Edition).
http://www.amazon.com/Abbotts-Encyclopedia-Rope-Tricks-Magicians/dp/0486232069/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328565776&sr=1-1
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Al Angello
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Collegeville, Pa. USA
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 7:15pm
I do about 8 rope tricks off and on in my show, and I love them all.
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Andre Hagen
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Inner circle
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Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:50pm
I used Neff's Miracle Rope as an opener for many years.
My only contribution or change was to have a spectator tie their finger ring to the rope before cutting it in half.
It quashed the idea of a rope switch when it was on the restored rope. It was always a jaw-dropper.
I love the effect!
Andre
P.S. My favorite in the past few years has been John Zander's "Loose Ends".
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Walking Bob
Veteran user
385 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2012 10:31am
I would like to thank Harry for referring me to Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks for Magicians compiled by Stewart James (Dover Edition). I have had the book for some time and looked through it last night to find the Harold Sterling's "Short and Long Rope Mystery. Not only did I find the Sterling effect, but I spent over an hour with the book and found a number of other treasures. Whoever said that the good effects are hidden in the old books was absolutely correct.
Thanks again Harry for the great information and opening up some new ideas for me!!!
Walking Bob in Iowa
P.S. One I can't wait to put in my cut and restored routine is L. W. Marking the Center of the Rope
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Ekuth
Inner circle
1105 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:50pm
Professor's Nightmare with comedy presentation.
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12919 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 2:18pm
A member brought this rope trick to our attention. I think it is very good and a little different then then most.
http://www.seomagic-usa.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/71/products_id/780
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4853 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 4:58pm
Soma's is another example of taking some standard bits and gaffs and melding them into a nice tight little routine. I liked it very much.
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magicians
Inner circle
Teacher and Legend
2874 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 6:29pm
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On 2012-02-11 16:58, Harry Murphy wrote:
Soma's is another example of taking some standard bits and gaffs and melding them into a nice tight little routine. I liked it very much.
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I like some of the moves as well, but I am not enamored of the rope thru neck all of the new rope effects seem to include. The Soma moves borrowed a few from "4 nightmares", and some Hen Fetch moves. $60 seems a bit steep for the effect, but distribution mark-ups dictate that. The blend into one loop could have been smoother.
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Xcath1
Inner circle
1040 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 6:32pm
I think Soma's "Rope it up" looks great. One of the cleanest routines I have seen using gaff and PN principle. Of course I have not seen even close to everything but I think many famous rope routines are confusing to me as a magician, I can not even imagine what they look like to a lay audience. I usually do a "1 rope" routine from Fiber Optics. In addition to how magical it looks I love that I do not destroy a rope with each performance and that there are no gaffs so replacing the inevitable frayed or dirty rope is less expensive. My only worry with Rope it Up is that the only available solution for the trick is the correct one although the entertainment value may outweigh that. I am frequently asked if I use magnets when I do fiber optics even after handing out the rope for examination.
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TrickyRicky
Inner circle
TrickyRicky
1208 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 8:20pm
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On 2012-01-26 11:37, Pete Biro wrote:
Harold Sterling's "Short and Long Rope", and sometimes "Neff's Miracle Rope".
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Pete, I agree a hundred percent about Sterling's Short and Long Routine.
The routine I do with Sterling's method really have the little ones involved with laughing and shouting.
I start with about 8 feet of rope cutting it twice each performance. I can do 5 performance with that length.
Tricky Ricky
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j100taylor
Elite user
478 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2012 9:52am
I like Daryl's Acrobatic Knot
Lakewood, Ohio
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Magic_engineer
New user
Plymouth, MA
66 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2012 9:13pm
Professor's dream if I am at parlour or stage distance, professor's nightmare for close up
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4853 Posts
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Posted: Feb 13, 2012 11:28am
I Like Al there are just so many good rope routines. The ones I tend to do most seem to be my audience’s favorites (more important to me than my favorite).
For most small parties and small venues I tend to do George Sands Sandsenational routine.
For larger venues I will do the cut and restored rope to Professor’s Nightmare sequence right out of Slidini.
On the street I will perform Pat Page’s “Everlasting Rope” repeatedly as a crowd drawer or a Hunter’s Knot as a challenge bit (give out lengths of rope and see if people can tie a knot in it without letting go the ends).
For pure comedy I always fall back on Professor Cheer’s Rope Trick. I have ended many a comedy show with that little gem.
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