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TheBestMagician New user 58 Posts |
Hi, I have a U3F but it's very noisy. I wanted to soften the coins.
Is this possible without any machine tools? i.e. - whetstone or sandpaper? any methods? thanks |
ralphs007 Inner circle 1087 Posts |
Hi
I wonder if a rock tumbler would work. I guess the longer you leave them in the tumbler the more the coin's would wear down.
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
The rock tumbler is an interesting idea, but my concern would be the dings that would possibly be left in the coin.
I have never had to soften my coins because when I have wanted soft coins, I have always been fortunate enough to find coins in coin shops in perfect condition for what I needed, and that were naturally softened through years of use. If not that, then I have always bought my soft coins from gaffers. Having said that, I have always been told to use a light and/or fine whetstone, moving the coin in a figure 8 motion. It takes a while to get a coin with prominent features whittled down to the point where it is sufficiently soft, but it works. |
manreb Special user 666 Posts |
There are a lot of threads on this topic, this is only one http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=3 Do not use a rock tumbler this will not do what you want and will ruin your coins. Search the topic.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Came across this on the topic by a self proclaimed do-it-yourself craftsman that shows you how. Great ingenuity and gitter-done spirit. He has a lot of interesting ideas as to making magical products.
http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/Softening/Coins.html
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Magic is great Regular user 134 Posts |
I agree with not using a rock tumbler. I have used the sharpening stone method in the past but have had less than perfect results. I never thought of trying a lathe (seems so obvious now). If I get a chance I will try it out tonight & report back how it worked...
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Daryl, on his 3 fly dvd, I believe, says to use a wetstone and rub them in a figure 8 pattern to soften them evenly.
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Magic is great Regular user 134 Posts |
That's what I tried in the past but just didn't get the results I had hoped for...
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taiga Veteran user Chicoutimi, Qc 317 Posts |
If you are ready to work for real, you could do what I did for mine. Go to a body shop (automobile/car) and ask for sand paper with NO PAPER but cloth (sorry I don't know the right word in english) get some rough ones and smooth ones (big grains and small grains). Now separate in two your "paper" (fold in two and rip following the crease in the LONGER SIZE). Now, fold this half again in two (this time, fold the two smallest sides one on top of the other) the grains INSIDE. You'll have a double piece roughly the same length of you hand. Insert the coin between the two layers created. Place each hand on each side of your ensemble (as if you were praying) and move/rotate your hands in an opposite fashion one from the other while maintaining pressure on your coin. From time to time switch side of your coin (head side is on the left... place it on the right). Once you have the result you are looking for with the big grains, finish your job with the small grains. It will smooth it like you never dreamed of. It is a hell of a job to do BUT... The results are VERY good!! I did that many years ago and I have never regret it at all. While watching a movie is the best ; ^)
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
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On 2012-08-26 13:53, Mb217 wrote: I just came across this myself, Marion, while looking at Riser's website. Great minds and all that (well, at least yours). I am familiar with James Riser, I just never looked at the tutorials until a couple days ago. James Riser is one of the great craftsmen of magic. His spun metal cups, card punch and wood turnings are things of beauty and incredible functionality. His creation of tutorials supporting DIY magicians is a generous gesture that I truly admire. Talk about giving back to the magic community. |
Octopus Sun Special user Wiggle Wiggle 586 Posts |
Thanks for the link Marion!
been wondering about the coin stack. now I can make one. |
J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
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On 2012-08-26 13:53, Mb217 wrote: Marion, I thought you would know of Jim Riser! Master craftsman, especially his cups. Jim |
Magic is great Regular user 134 Posts |
Ok here is an update - I got the chance to try out the lathe method & it worked great! This will be the method I use from now on any time I need to soften any coins myself. It worked much better (at least for me) than doing figure 8's on emory cloth & was also much easier. So for any DIY types who have access to a lathe & need to soften some coins, this method will solve your problem
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
I wish I had access to a lathe, and a tool that is needed for remilling (whatever that tool is)
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Magic is great Regular user 134 Posts |
I have a woodworking shop with a lathe but not a metal lathe. I am lucky enough to have a friend with one 3 miles away. He lets me use it when the need arises. He was inside while I used it this time so I was able to work in secrecy
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
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On 2012-08-26 23:10, J-Mac wrote: Oh, I know of him alright, just didn't know of his wonderful tutorials and wanted others to know about it. . Glad people like them and have even given it a try already. Good stuff. -Mb
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