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LukeBrady
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Posted: Feb 27, 2012 6:52pm
I agree ArtIn. I personally have been doing metal bending consistantly, almost daily, for 7+ years and I can count on one hand the number of times people have asked me to bend a knife. I say a table is the best and still about as organic as you can get!
IMO
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inorthcott
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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 11:23am
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On 2012-02-05 20:12, *double-A-magic* wrote:
Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending, at least not yet. Saying that I am saving up to buy Coinvexed 2 the sharpie edition. Wish the prices were a little lower but I suppose you get what you pay for.
AA
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Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you.
For me this is amazing.
Thank You David just stunning stuff.
Ian
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rasmus
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Switzerland
861 Posts
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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 2:41pm
Hy for all the goodness in the world we have to bend a knife? why not bend
a car or an airplane or the statue of liberty?
just kidding:)
I do metalbending aswell a coupple of years now and perhaps this system is the way to go.
I don't know anything about the gimmick.
it would really be appriciated to see an entire presentation of it. would be easier for deciding
to buy it or not.
thanks david penn for your great ideas and inventions.
best and good luck for the release of bionic
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Rasmus 2012
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Martin Waring
Regular user
York, England
180 Posts
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 10:15am
I thought I'd wait until I'd actually performed with this at a gig before giving my thoughts. I did a kids party on Thursday and an adults party for about 90 folks last night. At the kids show I was wearing jeans with no jacket for most of the time as it was unseasonably mild here in York. For Friday's gig I was suited and booted.
The first thing to say is that despite the gimmick being in full view at the kids show all afternoon, it raised no interest whatsoever.
I've been doing coinvexed for years since it first came out. I get many bookings from people who've seen me doing it at gigs and want me to do it for their party so I know how strong it is. I prefer the original coinvexed. I feel less confident with the mechanics of coinvexed 2.
Well it's early days playing with Bionik but so far I'm delighted with the reactions I'm getting with this and I'm sure they will only get better. The mechanics of the effect are pretty straightforward. There's really nothing to stress about and you can focus on presentation. There's a couple of variations in presentation you can use for this shown on the DVD and some subtleties you can add. I've gone for the unsubtle approach and I've been using the Dee Christopher reveal which IMHO looks sensational.
Before doing the reveal I pose a question: if you were stranded on a desert island which would you rather have a knife or a fork? If they say the fork I give them back the fork. If they say the knive I put the fork away in my pocket and either way I've got the knife ready to reveal the bend.
The rest is acting.
Don't do what I did and buy cheap knives from T....s. They are 4 for a quid and bend really easily but unfortunately you can bend them back with your little finger. You do want to ask your spec if they can bend the knife back. If they can it spoils the impact. For gigs I bought some tougher knives from a kitchen shop that cost me 90p each. So I''ve been looking for some remaindered knives today and found some at 6 for a pound which should work.
So all in all it's a worker for me. I probably won't do this at every table, just the ones where folks are really into magic or have been warmed up a bit but I can't see this ending up in a drawer anytime soon.
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jugglestruck
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Wales
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 1:26pm
Thanks for the review Martin.
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saysold1
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Recovering Cafe addict with only
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 2:21pm
Thanks Martin - how hard is the misdirection if I might ask?
Justified I'm sure?
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Martin Waring
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York, England
180 Posts
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 5:38pm
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On 2012-03-03 14:21, saysold1 wrote:
Thanks Martin - how hard is the misdirection if I might ask?
Justified I'm sure?
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Pretty easy if you follow the routine on the DVD which is well thought out but I'm sure you could come up with your own version too if you wanted.
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benmagic1
Regular user
163 Posts
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Posted: Mar 3, 2012 8:57pm
I bought this at the Blackpool convention in a bundle deal, I have not tried this as yet but I can see this as a really strong trick if you are in to metal bending ! I knew the method before I bought this and the gimmick is well made, if you want to bend a knife then this would be the perfect way to achieve this.
Ben
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 6, 2012 2:42am
I hope this gimmick is different from the old belt gimmick.
if this is what I think is really good and useful.
also suitable for bend handle of spoons and forks.
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 7, 2012 4:17pm
Is the gimmick unconfortable to wear?
can be put on and hold for all the day?
does it need a lot of misdirection without teh jacket cover?
thanks everyone for the help.
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Martin Waring
Regular user
York, England
180 Posts
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Posted: Mar 12, 2012 2:20pm
Did a really wild hunt ball on Saturday night where I ended up performing for about 6 hours under arduous conditions. It was absolute mayhem and I exhausted both myself and my supply of knives.
In terms of comfort, you do need to adjust the gimmick a bit to suit you but its really no big deal.
Last week I did a kids show in the afternoon with juggling outside as well so no jacket. Had the gimmick on me all the time with no issues or attention paid to it at all.
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*double-A-magic*
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Cheshire, England, UK
200 Posts
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Posted: Mar 12, 2012 5:05pm
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On 2012-02-28 11:23, inorthcott wrote:
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On 2012-02-05 20:12, *double-A-magic* wrote:
Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending, at least not yet. Saying that I am saving up to buy Coinvexed 2 the sharpie edition. Wish the prices were a little lower but I suppose you get what you pay for.
AA
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Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you.
For me this is amazing.
Thank You David just stunning stuff.
Ian
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I'm struggling to understand why you quoted me and what point you are trying to make.
My comment was merely just my opinion on the effect, it was only meant in the spirit of engaging with the magic community. I thought these threads were here for users to discuss the product, both those who want it and those who might pass on it.
If you believed my comments to be malicious, in paticular with regards the recent controversy, then I assure you they weren't and my post on page 3 of this thread would back that up.
Anyhoo - there's enough bickering on here without me getting involved so back to the Magic....!!
I would like to venture in to metal bending and imagine I definitely will in the future. Bionik won't be my first purchase though, I'm still saving for Penn's other effect Coinvexed 2.0, not long now... 
AA
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FrenchDrop
Inner circle
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Posted: Mar 12, 2012 5:35pm
AA, you said "Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending." Ian replied "Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you."
Where's the malice or bickering? I don't see any.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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*double-A-magic*
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Cheshire, England, UK
200 Posts
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Posted: Mar 12, 2012 6:37pm
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On 2012-03-12 17:35, FrenchDrop wrote:
AA, you said "Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending." Ian replied "Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you."
Where's the malice or bickering? I don't see any.
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I may have completely misread Ian's post and if that's the case then I apologise for my post. When I first read it I felt it was unnecessary to quote me and thought the context of his reply was defensive of the product and as if he thought I was one of the many users having a pop at David Penn on this thread. I just wanted to clear it up that I wasn't.
Sorry if I have caused any unnecessary animosity, I certainly don't want to be making any enemies around here.
AA
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 4:47pm
Bionik gimmick is a clever idea which relies on a gimmicked b..t I saw some years ago.
it is useful for a quick bending of silverware handles .
misdirection is needed but following the instructions it is not difficult.
the move is not to do in front of spec best turn the body quickly.
the gimmick ,in my opinion,coulb be done in a better way.
it is bulky,big and not so confortable .
also the slot could be much more invisible and silent.
in any case good gimmick but too expensive for my pockets.
mark
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Blindside785
Inner circle
Olympia, Washington
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 5:15pm
I was at Shari's with a group of people last night. The person I was sitting next to asked if I could bend a spoon, random, but I did. Great reactions to it, I was then asked about bending a knife. I came on here thinking about how nice of a routine this would be to have.
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MarcLavelle
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82 Posts
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Posted: Mar 15, 2012 5:34pm
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On 2012-03-13 17:15, Blindside785 wrote:
I was at Shari's with a group of people last night. The person I was sitting next to asked if I could bend a spoon, random, but I did. Great reactions to it, I was then asked about bending a knife. I came on here thinking about how nice of a routine this would be to have.
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It's always the case, isn't it? I hate it when I get asked to do something I'm not set up for!
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 17, 2012 1:03pm
Just a question.is there a routine for bending just one knife without the fork and the signature procedure?
I think it is necessary to turn around just a second to do the move.
in this case if I have just one knife I must try to misdirect
has someone tried a motivation for this kind of scenario?
best
mark
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 19, 2012 12:35pm
No one has tried to do it with just a knife or with a different routine?
in the dvd david just show one routine with signature if am not wrong.
best
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Martin Waring
Regular user
York, England
180 Posts
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Posted: Mar 19, 2012 4:46pm
Here's a picture of the after effects of Bionik. The effect is over and I'm going to my pocket to pull out something else. The gimmick, in theory should be in plain view but as you may or may not be able to tell, there's not much to see.
Click here to view attached image.
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 19, 2012 5:31pm
Thanks martin ,do you follow the main routine or did you try bending just one knife with another kind of misdirection?
in any case very useful gimmick for metal benders!
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LukeBrady
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58 Posts
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Posted: Mar 19, 2012 5:43pm
Martin do you do a lot with forks or spoons? I am almost thinking it is good just to have like once or twice a night in a bar setting.
Luke
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 20, 2012 3:07am
I agree just one or two are good enough to entertain the audience.
then the handle bending is powerful because it is impossible to do bare hands.
this makes the effect unbelievable
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Martin Waring
Regular user
York, England
180 Posts
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Posted: Mar 20, 2012 3:39am
Mark.
I just followed the standard routine as taught but with some added scripting of my own.
Yes ideally you need to source the right sort of knives i.e. ones that can't be bent/bent back with your fingers. I'm still working on a regular supply at the right cost. The last lot were in a pack of 12 for £5.75 and were ideal but they were the last pack my local kitchen store had left! Doh.
Luke.
I agree. I'm probably not going to do this at every single table. I'll probably save it for tables where I think I might get the best reactions.
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markhitton
Loyal user
255 Posts
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Posted: Mar 20, 2012 11:01am
Thanks martin
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