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thelearner

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Bournemouth, UK
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 4:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of thelearner  

Hi

Does anyone know of any cheaper alternatives to magicians' wax please?

Thanks for your help.

Tim
Bluesman

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Florida
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 5:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bluesman  

I have used the wax donut that goes below your toilet. Go to home depot.

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Dr_J_Ayala

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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 6:50pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dr_J_Ayala  

If transparency is not your goal and you just need a bit of tack to hold things together, Blu-Tack is a great alternative.

Where are you buying your wax that it is so expensive? Most shops here in the U.S. carry it for less than £2-£3 for a fair bit of wax.
MuleePete

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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 9:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MuleePete  

Pick up a wax bowl ring for $1.50, yeilds a large amount of soft beeswax in an amber color. You do not need the plastic flange some of the $3 - $5 rings have.

A great value and easy to work with, IMO.

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thelearner

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Bournemouth, UK
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 7:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of thelearner  

Hi

Thanks for your responses. I'm from England and unfortunately don't have those things at most shops, so any other suggestions would be great. Also, there's only one magic shop locally and I struggle to get there most of the time.

Thanks for you help.

Tim
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 11:09am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dr_J_Ayala  

Check with your local hardware store and ask them if they can get it for you - you might be surprised. Check with craft stores in your area, sometimes they have different wax products that would be soft enough for your purposes. Check and see if you can find un-cured beeswax, cleaned and fresh off the hive.
Dale J. O'Neill

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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 3:47pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dale J. O'Neill  

I would suggest you go find a local orthodontist and ask him for the wax that is used to keep braces from rubbing.

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Nala Nosmoht

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Posted: Feb 12, 2012 9:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Nala Nosmoht  

I perform Martin Lewis's "Undivided" and tried, and used with great results a small piece of Scotch Double-sided tape from Walmart.
motown

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Posted: Feb 12, 2012 9:45am    Reply with quote   View Profile of motown  

Glue stick maybe.

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Posted: Feb 14, 2012 11:33pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bob1Dog  

Quote:

On 2012-01-31 07:54, thelearner wrote:
Hi

Thanks for your responses. I'm from England and unfortunately don't have those things at most shops, so any other suggestions would be great. Also, there's only one magic shop locally and I struggle to get there most of the time.

Thanks for you help.

Tim



Tim,

You call yourself TheLearner, so perhaps you're younger than most of us that have to deal with toilet problems, so please indulge me as I try to help you out here. Don't you have home maintenance and improvement stores over there? You must. And I know they call it a WC across the pond, but a toilet is a toilet.

There's a wax ring that's used to make the seal between the toilet connection on the floor to the outflowing sewage pipe to keep things from getting, well, messy. Most home improvement/maintenance centers or other types of do-it-yourself hardware stores carry this product. It's a simple wax ring and that's what the folks above are referring to.

I hope this helps because it WILL save you some money. Harrods has EVERYTHING! (well, maybe not toilet products...) Don't know how close to London you are, but you could give them a call anyway? Maybe they can help you find what you're looking for. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask more questions!

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 9:06am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicians  

Chapstick, lipstick, some soaps to name a few.

Beeswax, ski wax.

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Craig Ousterling

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 4:28pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Craig Ousterling  

Almost every hobby shop or craft store has "doll house" wax. It is used to tack down the little furniture and stuff they stick in doll houses. The stuff I use says "mini-hold" on it. I think I paid $1.50 and have had it for 25 years.
Lefebure

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Lille, France
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Posted: Feb 17, 2012 3:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lefebure  

It depends on what you want to do, but personnally I use often removable glue by 3M (spray), instead of wax.
It works well too.
Fire Starter

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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:49am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Fire Starter  

Bostik sticky dots ,sticky on both sides and clear are quite good,hope this helps
AGMagic

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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:31am    Reply with quote   View Profile of AGMagic  

See Howie Diddits, the first sticky under Secret Sessions for the answer to this and many other similar questions.

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donrodrigo

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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 5:37am    Reply with quote   View Profile of donrodrigo  

In uk you may be able to find a cheese called filatello and or galbanino it's a pizza mozzarella cheese made in italy that's covered by a transparent wax wich I retain excellent, it will last a lifetime.

costume clown shops known as clown wax is white transparent, but softer.
DavidAusten

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Posted: Oct 22, 2012 2:50am    Reply with quote   View Profile of DavidAusten  

If the colour doesn't matter I use the wax from the mini Baybybel cheese, its ok for red backed cards
Gary T.

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Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Gary T.  

Hmmm, you know I went to school for building and grounds maitenance, I've put down toilets and never once considered those wax rings as a sorce of wax for my magic, but yeah, they can be found pretty easy with a little effort, any hardware store would surely have them, just go in and ask for a wax toilet ring, they'll hook you up.
boctok

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Posted: Oct 24, 2012 8:28am    Reply with quote   View Profile of boctok  

Hi Tim - just curious - are you building some device that requires an enormous amount of wax or developing a product for sale? I just ask cos I find that sometimes, though the "per gramme" price of some raw material from the dealers is high, unless you need large volumes it is often still cheaper to buy from them than source and buy alternatives. Granted it can be fun making one's own props but there are some things where the time spent outweigh the advantage. Not meant to discourage your investigation - just a personal observation.
Quentin

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Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Quentin  

http://www.cards4magic.co.uk/acatalog/Powders__Lotions__Waxes___Sprays.html

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Philip Busk

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Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:40pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Philip Busk  

The orthodontist and bowl ring are great ideas. Don't know if this would be available in the UK but I've used surfboard wax. Great stuff.

Philip Busk
donrodrigo

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U.S.A. and Europe
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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:32pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of donrodrigo  

Bees wax is exp. Clown wax is good. Transparent and crazy as it may sound go to your iternational store
or equivalent for example here I europe there is a soft mozzarella type cheese that is geerally covered by wax. It will last you a lifetime ad will blow the competition. O (sole as an example)baby bell cheese but that is colored.
AndyLuka

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Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 1:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of AndyLuka  

Magicians wax is too expensive? I bought a very small container of magicians wax over 5 years ago, and the container is still over 3/4 full. And it was your basic cheap magicians wax, the container cost a whopping 2.99 it still has the price tag on it.

However if $3 is still out of your price range, you can go to your local grocery store or pharmacy and get the wax that is used to go on braces to prevent the braces from cutting your lips. When I have forgotten my wax, I have used this as an alternative. The container cost about $1.50. If that is still out of your price range then I have no other suggestions.

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Felman

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Posted: Nov 8, 2012 8:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Felman  

I would recommend ordering online Fearson's Master wax, 7 $ / package. Ok, it is expensive, but you can use the same piece for quite a long time and it will still work reliably. I either don't want to spend too much money on magic props, but sometimes I really feel that "Poor people can't afford cheap products" (translated from my language There is probably a similar proverb in English).
djurmann

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Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:23am    Reply with quote   View Profile of djurmann  

You can buy a soft wax for holding candles in candlesticks - this reputedly works well too (Candle snug - recommended by Thom Peterson).

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wafflesthemagician

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Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:26pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of wafflesthemagician  

Yeah, I'd probably suggest using dental wax. It works great, and it's also useful for whenever my braces stab me in my mouth! (as a bonus, it's minty fresh!)
Andy Charlton

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Posted: Nov 16, 2012 5:58pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Andy Charlton  

Depends what you want it for.

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