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magicinsight

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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 10:47am
Then by all means please share with us your honest opinion when you receive it unless you feel that sharing opinions are also "ridiculous." I have enough unused and disappointing effects in my drawers that were bought without asking relevant questions or listening to others who have. I have become "wise" through my own mistakes and have learned to be patient and to ask relevant questions that pertain to the practical and effective nature of the effect without revealing the methodology. If you are willing to share your honest opinion about this or any other effect, I will certainly read your comments with care. But I will not purchase this effect or any other effect wihout knowing relevant information that has not been provided in the advertisement.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
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aukt

Special user
589 Posts
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 11:15am
I wouldn't even consider reviewing it on your behalf.
Any experienced performer already knows the answer to the questions you've asked when they hear it's grants/mothers methodology.
As it is I'll leave you to fish.
Maybe you want to know the weight of the paper, or the font size, or if he used spellcheck, or if there are any pretty pictures.
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Chad Sanborn

Inner circle
my fingers hurt from typing,
1821 Posts
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 1:20pm
Hey Kranzo,
Can I do this with one hand and a playboy?
Modern Magic...Classic Style
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Steve Hook

Inner circle
Raleigh, NC, USA
1117 Posts
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 10:28pm
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On 2012-02-18 10:47, magicinsight wrote:
But I will not purchase this effect or any other effect wihout knowing relevant information that has not been provided in the advertisement.
Michael
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So....................... moving along...............
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lhookway

Regular user
New Port Richey, Florida
130 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:12am
I was fortunate enough to attend a lecture that Nathan held in Tampa, Florida last year.
It was a superb lecture, Nathan is a very funny guy, tremendously engaging and a true pro.
I really like the sound of TRU TEST, it's just the sort of effect I love.
If this were say a $30-$40 effect I'd probably buy it sight unseen because it sounds amazing and its bloody Nathan Kranzo for heavens sake.
It's $100 though and if I bought this it would be the most I have spent on an effect. I'd really like to see a performance demo of some sort before I make a decision to buy. In the absence of a demo some reviews from those that have purchased this effect would be really beneficial.
Regards,
Laurence.
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:23am
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On 2012-02-18 13:20, Chad Sanborn wrote:
Hey Kranzo,
Can I do this with one hand and a playboy?
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LOL!!!!
Yes and that is a GREAT presentation
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:25am
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On 2012-02-19 00:12, lhookway wrote:
I was fortunate enough to attend a lecture that Nathan held in Tampa, Florida last year.
It was a superb lecture, Nathan is a very funny guy, tremendously engaging and a true pro.
I really like the sound of TRU TEST, it's just the sort of effect I love.
If this were say a $30-$40 effect I'd probably buy it sight unseen because it sounds amazing and its bloody Nathan Kranzo for heavens sake.
It's $100 though and if I bought this it would be the most I have spent on an effect. I'd really like to see a performance demo of some sort before I make a decision to buy. In the absence of a demo some reviews from those that have purchased this effect would be really beneficial.
Regards,
Laurence.
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Thanks so much for your kind words man! I think you'll love this.
If you have never spent that much then I understand your hesitation. It isn't for the merely interested. You get 100 gaffs in the hopes you will be using them all!
And if you do it will pay for itself a thousand times over.....
All the best,
Kranzo
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:27am
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On 2012-02-18 22:28, Steve Hook wrote:
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On 2012-02-18 10:47, magicinsight wrote:
But I will not purchase this effect or any other effect wihout knowing relevant information that has not been provided in the advertisement.
Michael
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So....................... moving along...............
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LOL Ah my good old buddy Steve. : )
Thanks bro
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Nathan Kranzo

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2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:29am
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On 2012-02-17 22:29, the Sponge wrote:
"Creator of the effect"...LOL
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Hey Chuckles!
I know I am not the creator. I never said I was. Its pretty obvious when you see and read the manuscript.
I am however the only authorized person to use the principle other than Grant and John Murray.
ouch!
Later,
Kranzo
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:30am
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On 2012-02-18 11:15, aukt wrote:
I wouldn't even consider reviewing it on your behalf.
Any experienced performer already knows the answer to the questions you've asked when they hear it's grants/mothers methodology.
As it is I'll leave you to fish.
Maybe you want to know the weight of the paper, or the font size, or if he used spellcheck, or if there are any pretty pictures.
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Dude You just hit the nail on the head Aukt.
Thanks for your post!!!!
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:35am
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On 2012-02-17 21:07, murray wrote:
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On 2012-02-17 17:52, aukt wrote:
You know what, the questions here are getting RIDICULOUS
no more fishing - you wanna try it, you gotta buy it.
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As somebody who's considering buying this, I don't find the questions at all "ridiculous." One reason for all the questions is that the creator of this effect has not provided a straightforward demonstration of its actually being performed (with a spectator).
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Would you like me to just tell you the method?
Or how about I just write you a check?
lol.
Oh sorry for the sarcasm. Seriously man. What is it that you are confused about?? I'm always here to answer any questions. Please pm or email me at nathankranzo@gmail.com
If you are familiar with Grant's Original, or any of the other classic tests mentioned then you already know the principle. And if not then you really should do a little studying because those are some of the strongest most classic book tests in all of mentalism.
Just let me know if you need further info and I'll hook you up with some great reference material.
Later,
Kranzo
P.S. Screw grammar!
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tmoca

Special user
626 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:55am
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On 2012-02-19 02:35, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
If you are familiar with Grant's Original, or any of the other classic tests mentioned then you already know the principle.
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So one would be paying $99 to you, for someone else's work?
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magicinsight

Inner circle
2401 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:14am
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On 2012-02-18 22:28, Steve Hook wrote:
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On 2012-02-18 10:47, magicinsight wrote:
But I will not purchase this effect or any other effect wihout knowing relevant information that has not been provided in the advertisement.
Michael
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Steve,
I already have.
Best wishes to you and your family,
Michael
So....................... moving along...............
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“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
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magicinsight

Inner circle
2401 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:16am
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On 2012-02-18 22:28, Steve Hook wrote:
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On 2012-02-18 10:47, magicinsight wrote:
But I will not purchase this effect or any other effect wihout knowing relevant information that has not been provided in the advertisement.
Michael
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Steve,
I already have. I hope you enjoy this effect.
Best wishes to you and your family.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
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the Sponge

Inner circle
Atlanta
1194 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:27pm
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On 2012-02-19 02:29, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
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On 2012-02-17 22:29, the Sponge wrote:
"Creator of the effect"...LOL
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Hey Chuckles!
I know I am not the creator. I never said I was. Its pretty obvious when you see and read the manuscript.
I am however the only authorized person to use the principle other than Grant and John Murray.
ouch!
Later,
Kranzo
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Hey Comprehension Skills!
Nobody said you said you were the creator. I was laughing at Murry's misconseption.
As for the second part, what are you claiming exactly? I mean, if what you just wrote was true, why would you need "the blessing of Ted Karmilovch"?
Can't wait for your next mentalism re-release!
<3,
Chuckles
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Tony Razzano

Inner circle
South River, NJ
1557 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:46pm
Removed by poster after an "Oh Duh" moment. Sorry everyone.
Best regards,
Tony Razzano, Past President, PEA
Be Kind to Each Other
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Kaarlo von Freymann

Regular user
Finland
183 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:45pm
Come on folks, if all threads were as uninformative and unenjoyable as this one I would stop looking up things on the café which would actually mean a couple of thousand dollars less purchases every year. I do appreciate that that makes no difference whatsoever, but multiply that with hundreds of prospective buyers who might feel the same as I do, it might make a difference. I do have MOABT and about a dozen book tests so I am not 100 % unaware of how revealing words works. I did have a look at the video as it was dropped in my e-mail box by a verdor I patronize. Lee Harvey, Bob Kohler and Dean Dill make videos that are so convincing that you are willing to part with hundreds of dollars right away. I case this is is even close the best MAGAZINE TEST of all times it certainly deserves a better video and better thread than this. Everything on this thread and the video made me want NOT to buy this prop.
Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:15am
I'm not begging anyone to buy this. LMAO.
If you don't like it move along! in fact run away.
I'll be ok.
LOL
Hugs,
Kranzo
P.S. If you have a question or something constructive to say......you can PM or email me at nathankranzo@gmail.com This has just become a fishing contest. 
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:16am
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On 2012-02-19 07:55, tmoca wrote:
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On 2012-02-19 02:35, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
If you are familiar with Grant's Original, or any of the other classic tests mentioned then you already know the principle.
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So one would be paying $99 to you, for someone else's work?
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Yup. Pretty much.
I purchased the rights and I own Grant's Tru Test.
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aukt

Special user
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 5:37am
By watching the video and reading the blurb, I know what it is, how it works, how I can use it, and more
Importantly how strong it's going to be.
$100 is a no brainer for me, knowing what this is.
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lhookway

Regular user
New Port Richey, Florida
130 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:13am
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On 2012-02-19 02:25, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
If you have never spent that much then I understand your hesitation. It isn't for the merely interested. You get 100 gaffs in the hopes you will be using them all!
And if you do it will pay for itself a thousand times over.....
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I'm going to take the plunge and get this. The effect sounds amazing and Nathan is a decent bloke. If TRU TEST is even half good as it sounds I doubt I shall be disappointed.
As a bonus since the effect ...will pay for itself a thousand times over, if my math is correct I will be $100,000 better off too!
Regards,
Laurence.
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Tom Jorgenson

Inner circle
LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:14pm
The question should not be 'What is it?'...what it is has been told. A little research would probably give you all the skinny you need if you're not familiar with the method.
The question in our minds should be 'How good is the gaff?'
Mr. Kranzo has enough experience and knowledge, judging the future from the past, to deliver an excellent product. Performers will want this almost automatically. It has been a long time since this one has been available. While it may be judicious to wait for reviews on the quality of the gaffs, it is also probably unnecessary.
For the Fumble-Thumbed who wish a good CT: John Wells' THE BARFLY'S BILLET TEST &INDEX CARD TEAR
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/jorgenson
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tmoca

Special user
626 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 6:11pm
The lack of presentation is because it would tip the gaff if you were to see what actually takes place during the routine. Then you would quickly realize what you get 100 of.
The effect is NOT the grail of booktests. It is FAR from it. There are many other alternatives that are much better. You cannot just pick up any old mag and do this. You have to "prep" it to some degree. The size, shape, typeset all matter.
If memory serves me correctly Grant's original was done with a reader's digest. It was/is a descent way of doing this, but again, far better versions are out there.
Contrary to the demo, it is NOT ANY word. It would be fair to say it IS any word on the page, but the actual word they choose, really isn't any word.
My advise would be save your bones, because if you already have a couple tests in your library, I can guarantee they are better and the selection of the word can be different IMMEDIATELY, without prep.
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 8:30pm
Lol
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Nathan Kranzo

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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 8:45pm
Tmoca I'm sorry I got your panties in a know. I still like you though!!! Obviously you don't like this type of effect and that's totally cool. I'm ok with that. : )
U.F. Grant would ask the volunteer not to think of a short word like "a" or "of" or "the".
I agree.
As it makes for a terribly boring revelation. And a short effect.
All the best,
Kranzo
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saysold1

Inner circle
Recovering Cafe addict with only
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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:52am
Devin Knight is selling his down below already.
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tmoca

Special user
626 Posts
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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:53pm
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On 2012-02-20 20:45, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Tmoca I'm sorry I got your panties in a know. I still like you though!!! Obviously you don't like this type of effect and that's totally cool. I'm ok with that. : )
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I never said I didn't like this type of effect...what gave you that idea anyway? The method is what is lackluster and inferior to other methods. Don't take it personally, but it was mediocre at best when Grant put it out and it still is.
As far as my "panties" go, you didn't bunch them up anymore than they normally are....I was once told, never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to....
Sorry if you got the impression that you upset me...you didn't. I was merely just trying to help and make sure someone didn't waste his or her money.
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Tony Razzano

Inner circle
South River, NJ
1557 Posts
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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:59pm
I had Grant's original. This is a fine effect. I think that for what breaks down for a dollar a performance, it is a bargain. Especially since it is updated to today's magazines.
Best regards,
Tony Razzano, Past President, PEA
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lunatik

Inner circle
Date me before I become famous!
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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 8:40pm
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On 2012-02-21 12:53, tmoca wrote:
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On 2012-02-20 20:45, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Tmoca I'm sorry I got your panties in a know. I still like you though!!! Obviously you don't like this type of effect and that's totally cool. I'm ok with that. : )
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I never said I didn't like this type of effect...what gave you that idea anyway? The method is what is lackluster and inferior to other methods. Don't take it personally, but it was mediocre at best when Grant put it out and it still is.
As far as my "panties" go, you didn't bunch them up anymore than they normally are....I was once told, never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to....
Sorry if you got the impression that you upset me...you didn't. I was merely just trying to help and make sure someone didn't waste his or her money.
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So how long have you been performing Nathan's product?
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
Date me before I become famous!
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Nathan Kranzo

V.I.P.
2509 Posts
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Posted: Feb 21, 2012 9:10pm
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On 2012-02-21 12:53, tmoca wrote:
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On 2012-02-20 20:45, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Tmoca I'm sorry I got your panties in a know. I still like you though!!! Obviously you don't like this type of effect and that's totally cool. I'm ok with that. : )
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I never said I didn't like this type of effect...what gave you that idea anyway? The method is what is lackluster and inferior to other methods. Don't take it personally, but it was mediocre at best when Grant put it out and it still is.
As far as my "panties" go, you didn't bunch them up anymore than they normally are....I was once told, never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to....
Sorry if you got the impression that you upset me...you didn't. I was merely just trying to help and make sure someone didn't waste his or her money.
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Tmoca I certainly understand your point. You think MOABT, The Key etc. are all based on an inferiour principle. Inferior to what? ACTUAL Real psychic powers????
I just strongly disagree. This is an AMAZING test. And several pro mentalists agree over the years.
If you don't like it that's cool. But.....as you say, "just trying to help and make sure someone didn't waste his or her money."
That is a compltely wrong.
I'll agree to disagree.
All the best,
Kranzo
P.S. Here is some updated info about the Tru Test
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