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marc_carrion

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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 12:59am    Reply with quote   View Profile of marc_carrion  

Hi, I'm trying to find a false shuffle for a small pack of cards. I don't need the explanation, just the source

thanks!!
Steven Keyl

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Washington, D.C.
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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 8:46am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Steven Keyl  

A very convincing small packet false shuffle is the Charlier Shuffle. It can be found in both "Royal Road to Card Magic" and "Expert Card Technique". Both books are classic texts and you will find a wealth of knowledge in each.

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RoyalRoad72

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Wakefield, England
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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 9:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of RoyalRoad72  

Jog shuffle from just about any card magic book on the market.

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marc_carrion

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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 9:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of marc_carrion  

Thanks RoyalRoad72, I use the jog for the full deck, not sure how it would look for a small pack.
Thanks Steven, I out of town now, but I have a copy of the Expert I could check when I get home!!
Alan Munro

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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 2:04pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Alan Munro  

I'd be inclined to use cuts rather than shuffles. Lorayne's "The Magic Book" had some sweet ones.

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magico

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Connecticut
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Posted: Mar 4, 2012 3:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magico  

Sent you a PM
Rpascual

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San Juan, PR
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Posted: Mar 5, 2012 4:23pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rpascual  

In fact, Woody Aragon describes a false shuffle of this nature in his new book "a book in English."

If you would like, I could look up the name of said shuffle.

Let me know.
MagicJuggler

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Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of MagicJuggler  

Slop shuffle followed by a cut is the way to go for such a small packet of cards. Can't remember what source I learned from but you can PM me if your interested in an explanation. It's actually quite easy.

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Dorian Rhodell

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San Francisco, CA.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 8:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dorian Rhodell  

I agree with Steven Keyl. The Charlier Shuffle is the way to go.
The apparent lack of control makes the shuffle very disarming.

Best,

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WillStagner

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Posted: Apr 15, 2012 2:12am    Reply with quote   View Profile of WillStagner  

Overhand shuffle but run off single cards. Perform it an even number of times and it's a false shuffle.
You can do it without having to think about anything and it's the most natural shuffle around (in the US at least).
geoff1973

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Posted: Apr 19, 2012 3:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of geoff1973  

Charlier Shuffle is best I think. or Ireland Shuffle. G
chappy

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Posted: May 6, 2012 4:48am    Reply with quote   View Profile of chappy  

There is a great shufle in Stunners which, although it does not quite meet your description(9 cards), could be adapted for more with a little thought.
Jonathan100

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Posted: May 20, 2012 8:10am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathan100  

The Charlier Shuffle is a cut although it looks like a shuffle and is named a shuffle! It actually cuts the deck and does not answer the criteria of a complete false shuffle where the order of every card is retained. Of course if you can cut enough times so at the final cut the original top card returns to the top then it would be a complete false shuffle. Charlier shuffle works great for cyclical stacks.

Yours,

Jonathan
Wravyn

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Posted: May 20, 2012 9:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Wravyn  

Quote:

On 2012-05-20 08:10, Jonathan100 wrote:
The Charlier Shuffle is a cut although it looks like a shuffle and is named a shuffle! It actually cuts the deck and does not answer the criteria of a complete false shuffle where the order of every card is retained. Of course if you can cut enough times so at the final cut the original top card returns to the top then it would be a complete false shuffle. Charlier shuffle works great for cyclical stacks.

Yours,

Jonathan



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