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Bob Sanders
Grammar Supervisor
Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama
19261 Posts
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Posted: Mar 20, 2012 10:14am
We live and learn. Silk magic may be inappropiate for some audiences. With the growing news coverage of Muslims today, I tried to learn more about them.
Muslim men are forbidden to wear silk according to Islamic teachings.
http://islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=61261 and IslamOnLine.net
For females it might be OK. (They do acquire it.)
That could have some impact for magic. An old standard routine is cut and restored necktie. (Not wearing a tie when appropriate may have meaning! It is common on TV.)
Being Methodist, I am certainly no expert here. However, I do have questions that relate to silk magic for Muslims.
Are Muslim men offended with silk magic? What is allowed and what is not?
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz
AmazedWiz@yahoo.com
SilkMagic@DoveLite.com
http://www.magicbysander.com/
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magicians
Inner circle
Teacher and Legend
2872 Posts
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Posted: Mar 20, 2012 10:25am
Wickipedia: In Islamic teachings, Muslim men are forbidden to wear silk. Many religious jurists believe the reasoning behind the prohibition lies in avoiding clothing for men that can be considered feminine or extravagant.[21] There are disputes regarding the amount of silk a fabric can consist of (e.g., whether a small decorative silk piece on a cotton caftan is permissible or not) for it to be lawful for men to wear but the dominant opinion of most Muslim scholars is that the wearing of silk by men is forbidden. Modern attire has raised a number of issues, including (for instance) the permissibility of wearing silk ties (which are of course very much masculine articles of clothing).
Despite injunctions against silk for men, silk has retained its popularity in the Islamic world because of its permissibility for women. The Muslim Moors brought silk with them to Spain during their conquest of the Iberian Peninsula.
Another source:
It is not permissible for men to wear a necktie made of silk. Silk is forbidden for men, whether worn direct on the body, around the neck, or over the head. All of these are different ways of wearing something.
The Prophet (peace be upon him) took a piece of silk in his right hand and a piece of gold in his left, held them aloft, and said: “These are forbidden for the men of my people and permitted for the women.†[Sunan Ibn Mâjah]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) also said: “Gold and silk have been permitted for the women of my people and forbidden for the men.â€
The Prophet (peace be upon him) issued the following stern warning to Muslim men: “Silk is only worn in this world by one who will have no share of the pleasure of the Hereafter.†[Sahîh al-Bukhâri and Sahîh Muslim]
He also said: “Whoever wears silk in this world will not wear it in the Hereafter.†[Sahîh al-Bukhâri]
Men are alowed to wear silk only under special circumstances. They may wear silk uniforms in times of war in order to show off and intimidate the enemy, which is a kind of psychological warfare.
People who are suffering from skin diseases may wear silk to relieve their suffering. The Prophet (peace be upon him) allowed ‘Abd al-Rahmân ibn ‘Awf and Ibn al-Zubayr to wear silk when they were suffering from scabies. [Sahîh al-Bukhâri and Sahîh Muslim]
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RJE2
Veteran user
383 Posts
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 9:09am
I spoke with some of my Muslim students (high school age) yesterday about this. They were unaware of this even being a problem. They said if it was of a concern to the performer though, then they should just have a woman handle the silk if a volunteer is needed.
The Muslim religion, like all major religious is quite diverse in its beliefs and practices. I think just the fact that we as performers are aware of possible conflict and show respect for people's faith through a thread like this is a very encouraging thing. I say, well done for bringing it up Bob.
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Shade28
New user
13 Posts
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:15am
As a Muslim performer I have never had any problems performing silk magic. I have even performed silk magic at mosques with no problems. The tie thing is true, particularly outside of America it is common for Muslims not to wear ties. Usually in the US we just wear non silk ties. Maybe someone should come up with a cut and restored beard routine  And to ditto what RJE2 said thanks for bringing this up Bob.
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