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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6501 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:05pm
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On 2012-03-30 20:38, Freedomboy wrote:
This is why after years and years of actually PERFORMING in front of real people I didn't sign up to these forums! You actually are a complete bunch of idiots! I offer a little advice and it gets shot down because you all know better with the amazing products that get shoved under your nose! Keep parting with your money whilst being eternally disappointed at the fact that you may have to put some hard work into a very beautiful craft that makes people happy!
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WOW, you're a real performer? We don't get many of those on the forums. May we know your website so we an see what you do?
I know, you don't have one because you're too busy performing.
I'm a happy hobbyist that will continue to waste his money, despite your warnings to save me.
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tomsk192
Inner circle
1499 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:14pm
See this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x66t08_big-train-braveheart-s-tiny-pony_fun
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Magicsquared
Special user
NYC
932 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:22pm
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On 2012-03-30 20:38, Freedomboy wrote:
This is why after years and years of actually PERFORMING in front of real people I didn't sign up to these forums! You actually are a complete bunch of idiots! I offer a little advice and it gets shot down because you all know better with the amazing products that get shoved under your nose! Keep parting with your money whilst being eternally disappointed at the fact that you may have to put some hard work into a very beautiful craft that makes people happy!
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Hey everyone! It's that guy we were waiting for to help us because we're not adults here who can make up our minds ourselves. Finally someone can come here to tell us what's what. And put that hack, Paul Harris (who I'm guessing is some teenage Criss Angle wannabe, youtube magician) in his place. Thanks, Freedomboy!
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Freedomboy
New user
24 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:26pm
Hi zombie magic
Are you drunk! Seriously wishing to dispell Guy Hollingworths Torn n Restored as a joke!! Forget the Tarbell course, you are willing to put your reputation up against a "packet trick" ! You have so much more to lose than me so good luck!
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6501 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:41pm
No Freedomboy, I dispel you and your post to save us all. Now go back to your gameboy until you think up more clever things to say.
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tomsk192
Inner circle
1499 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:44pm
Guy Hollingworth is a brill magician, you won't find anyone here that would question that. You were quite patronising, sorry to say. All sorts of people post here, including some rather well known ones.
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Freedomboy
New user
24 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 10:25pm
Sorry I have no idea what a game boy is?
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25246 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 11:29pm
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On 2012-03-30 12:59, Carnac wrote:
Seven up: The card is not chosen. (which is OK by me) ...
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There's a thread on the Genii site about this item. And some handling posted (in outline form) for using a signed selection.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6501 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 4:59am
Steve Fearson has this and Steve has FREE world wide shipping ( I have no idea how he can do that ). Steve's one of the great guys in magic.
http://www.emagicsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=331
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Stucky
Special user
Still not banned after
819 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 5:02pm
For those of you who think magnets and that others will too... paper is not magnetic.
Official Thread Killer
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25246 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 5:56pm
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On 2012-04-01 17:02, Stucky wrote:
For those of you who think magnets and that others will too... paper is not magnetic.
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Neither is plastic yet those little football players move... somehow.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Magicsquared
Special user
NYC
932 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 6:06pm
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On 2012-04-01 17:56, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 17:02, Stucky wrote:
For those of you who think magnets and that others will too... paper is not magnetic.
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Neither is plastic yet those little football players move... somehow.
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uhm... those little football players move because the field vibrates. magnets aren't involved.
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Freedomboy
New user
24 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 7:35pm
Sorry to Tomsk192! You are totally right! As for everyone else, I drink a lot! Not an excuse just a fact!!!! Anyway, I look forward to you all moaning and !@#$%ing about how this effect has fallen short of your expectations!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.
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FrenchDrop
Inner circle
I can name that tune in
1662 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 7:48pm
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On 2012-04-01 19:35, Freedomboy wrote:
Sorry to Tomsk192! You are totally right! As for everyone else, I drink a lot! Not an excuse just a fact!!!! Anyway, I look forward to you all moaning and !@#$%ing about how this effect has fallen short of your expectations!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.
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sirbrad...is that you? 
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Xiqual
Inner circle
Upper left quadrant
3790 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 8:15pm
So you are a drunk that cannot control his mouth, but it is the people here in the Café that are a joke? Keep telling yourself that.
You will sober up in the morning.
James
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Frenchdrop! I believe you are spot on Sir!!
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On 2012-04-01 19:35, Freedomboy wrote:
Sorry to Tomsk192! You are totally right! As for everyone else, I drink a lot! Not an excuse just a fact!!!! Anyway, I look forward to you all moaning and !@#$%ing about how this effect has fallen short of your expectations!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.
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Still with the Chinese circus
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25246 Posts
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 8:20pm
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On 2012-04-01 18:06, Magicsquared wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 17:56, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 17:02, Stucky wrote:
For those of you who think magnets and that others will too... paper is not magnetic.
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Neither is plastic yet those little football players move... somehow.
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uhm... those little football players move because the field vibrates. magnets aren't involved.
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You are correct in that the analogy does not extend to the exact mechanics... though step back one level and notice what is similar.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Failed Magician
Inner circle
Still working on the DL even after made
1919 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 12:54am
So I assume this is still a pre-order item?
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6501 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 1:58am
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On 2012-04-01 19:35, Freedomboy wrote:
Sorry to Tomsk192! You are totally right! As for everyone else, I drink a lot! Not an excuse just a fact!!!! Anyway, I look forward to you all moaning and !@#$%ing about how this effect has fallen short of your expectations!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.
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Thanks for the update. We thought you were just stupid. You're actually a substance abuser that takes pleasure/looks forward to/wishes for, the misery of others.
PLEASE don't have children.
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Failed Magician
Inner circle
Still working on the DL even after made
1919 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 4:31am
Freedomboy, do you have a copy of this? If not, then why you single out this effect and trying to convice others here that it is not a great effect?
I don't mind a crystal-clear review, but stating this won't be a great trick while you never have it is quite inappropriate. Especially when you said that we're gonna moan and ******* about it later.
For some it might look obvious but we have allowed ourselves to see mechanism of many props and effects. Therefore people will start their wild guess or speculation.
Even I might have some will guesses about this, it still look great and can't wait for the reviews.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6501 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 12:51pm
There will only be one true test and that is learning it, performing it and getting reactions, good or bad. You may think this looks bad, but the reactions will be great. Or, you might love the looks of this and reactions fall flat.
I think they'll be on the scale the reactions the Haunted Pack gets.
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dduane
Special user
Bridgewater, MA
556 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 12:55pm
I'm trying to think/view this demo like a layman. The moving parts is really magical. But I can't help thinking that this is the only part of the effect that is magic to the spectator. Unless the parts line up pretty close to perfect before the coverup, the full restore will not be convincing. I don't think laymen will care about covering the card with the envelope as long as it looks restored before that. Most of the issues discussed don't concern me, since a good presentation will make the trick work, but if the parts don't (maybe can't?) line up, then it's not very convincing as a restore - but it is fascinating as an animation. I don't think I can afford buying this, so I can't give it a review, but just based on the demo -trying to see it as a spectator - it has a limited effect.
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Justin N. Miller
Inner circle
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 4:36pm
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On 2012-04-02 12:55, dduane wrote:
I'm trying to think/view this demo like a layman. The moving parts is really magical. But I can't help thinking that this is the only part of the effect that is magic to the spectator. Unless the parts line up pretty close to perfect before the coverup, the full restore will not be convincing. I don't think laymen will care about covering the card with the envelope as long as it looks restored before that. Most of the issues discussed don't concern me, since a good presentation will make the trick work, but if the parts don't (maybe can't?) line up, then it's not very convincing as a restore - but it is fascinating as an animation. I don't think I can afford buying this, so I can't give it a review, but just based on the demo -trying to see it as a spectator - it has a limited effect.
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The pieces line up perfectly! Also for those freaking out about the envelope..its a perfectly justified motion to use the envelope to turn the card over face up and hand it out, then put the fully restored card back into the envelope and go on with another piece of strange!
JM
THE BOLD PROJECT..Putting the art of magic where it belongs, in the hands of the student!
www.justinmillermagic.com
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dduane
Special user
Bridgewater, MA
556 Posts
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 5:03pm
Justin,
I have no trouble with the envelope. Perhaps a better demo might show the 'line up' then? It didn't look convincing, since the card was covered up by the envelope before the pieces really fit. It was close. I suppose with good timing, you can get away with it. They are lined up of course when it's in one piece, and the spectator may not notice any difference. But for me and how I've seen they way audiences watch so closely, it doesn't quite convince. The moving pieces are awesome, though, and that may be magic enough for some. I'm not trying to pan something I have even bought - just my opinion of the demo. I do think this is a great new idea.
DB
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king2262
Regular user
179 Posts
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Posted: Apr 3, 2012 6:23am
Have Murphys started shipping out to dealers yet?
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rasmus
Special user
Switzerland
854 Posts
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Posted: Apr 3, 2012 7:54am
If the pieces line up perfectly, why the trailer doesen't show it?
would be nice to see that on a video.
the effect looks very good.
is there any thread, visible or invisible involved?
thank's
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Rasmus 2012
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RichOrvec
New user
58 Posts
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Posted: Apr 3, 2012 7:27pm
I don't post much, more of a lurker, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in for this one.
I have seen Jesse do this live, in front of me. At the time, I was with a layman friend of mine who witnessed the trick as well.
This looks better in real life then on the demo. And the demo looks pretty freaking good. Everytime I saw it done, the corners of the card perfectly lined up, at least to my eyes. He probably did it about 3 or 4 times for me and my friend, because my friend kept asking to see it again. He had no idea how it was done. And keep in mind, he's been hanging around me for several years and has more knowledge of magical workings then most laypeople. And also, I've been in magic for 17 years now, and it took me until the 3rd time watching (from a "bad" angle, nonetheless) before I figured out what he was doing. And then I started laughing because it's a brilliant methodology and application.
All actions are motivated and it's one of the better pieces of eye candy I've seen in the last few years. And it's very practical for the real world.
I plan on picking one up when it comes out.
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Failed Magician
Inner circle
Still working on the DL even after made
1919 Posts
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Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:31am
Thanks for sharing it with us. I do hope this looks better in real life.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Freedomboy
New user
24 Posts
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Posted: Apr 4, 2012 8:08pm
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On 2012-04-02 01:58, Zombie Magic wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 19:35, Freedomboy wrote:
Sorry to Tomsk192! You are totally right! As for everyone else, I drink a lot! Not an excuse just a fact!!!! Anyway, I look forward to you all moaning and !@#$%ing about how this effect has fallen short of your expectations!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.
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Thanks for the update. We thought you were just stupid. You're actually a substance abuser that takes pleasure/looks forward to/wishes for, the misery of others.
PLEASE don't have children
That's an awful thing to say! I'd like you to take that back please!
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king2262
Regular user
179 Posts
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Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:12am
Mine arrived today ,it was what I thought it would be and I'm sure most would have a good idea of the workings
I've had a quick play with it and it's pretty straight forward to perform ,it will take a little practice as its a bit fiddly but nothing major.
You recieve two envelopes that you can customise yourself and there's the blank paper for you to right your letter on.
It def does what it says on the tin!
I'm happy with my purchase 
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bosque
Loyal user
236 Posts
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Posted: Apr 5, 2012 10:40am
I agree with king2262. Excellent product. I need to practice the routine a bit before I perform it, but I think this one is a winner. Looks terrific in real life, and the s****h at the end is justifiable. Good one, Jesse and Paul.
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