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levitate
Veteran user
310 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 3:43pm
Based on my experience, the $100 bill switch (with a TT) is probably THE most widely used sleight in bill magic. Why? Well, it looks pretty fair - your hands are "empty" before and after the switch. But I can't get over the fact that it seems totally silly to be folding up a bill like that. In some contexts, doing so does make sense. For example, folding up a bill so it fits in a coin purse, or folding up a bill so it's easier to tear a corner off. I guess even in the mismade bill, you could talk about how you can turn a bill inside out by folding it up real small.
Anyways, this is a general question, but it also applies to an illusion I came up with recently. Basically instead of turning a $1 into $100, I want to write someone a check and magically "cash" it into a real bill, but I can't think of a good reason I'm folding it up. Any suggestions? Thanks 
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Xcath1
Inner circle
1040 Posts
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 11:41pm
So you can fit into a tt
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ropeadope
Elite user
Mississippi
453 Posts
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Posted: Mar 31, 2012 12:01am
Then maybe you`ll be interested in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6LqaAFgAY
Have fun,
John
Nothing is better than more.
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The Burnaby Kid
Inner circle
GwangJu, South Korea
2720 Posts
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Posted: Mar 31, 2012 12:10am
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=458618&forum=210&7
Not that far down the main page.
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ropeadope
Elite user
Mississippi
453 Posts
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Posted: Mar 31, 2012 12:25am
Using the switch Burnaby refers to, although I`m not familiar with it yet, I don`t see why you couldn`t do the switch with a check also.
I believe it`s a new switch & haven`t seen any reviews yet, but it looks very good. Would be great to do a switch without gimmicks, using SOH & using only one fold.
Have fun,
John
Nothing is better than more.
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Brian Proctor
Inner circle
Oregon
2212 Posts
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Posted: Mar 31, 2012 1:52am
Bill Malone simply tells his audience that it is just a fold test to see whether or not the bill is fake or not. It works for me.
www.BrianProctorMagic.com
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Alan Munro
Inner circle
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
5429 Posts
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Posted: Mar 31, 2012 2:09am
I start with the upside-down George bit and show that a different fold gets a different result. You won't need an explanation beyond that. People tend not to think things through much. Just look at the elected officials we have. It's the result of a mentally lazy populous - the rest have given up on the government or are affiliated with a "third" party, registering protest votes.
http://www.sneakymagician.com/
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nathanernest
New user
73 Posts
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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 2:32am
Mobius Switch is a great alternative. You only fold the bill into halfs and there is no TT. Sure it requires a bit more hand work but its well worth it in my opinion.
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Scott Fridinger
Special user
Ocean Springs, MS
804 Posts
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Posted: Apr 19, 2012 10:43am
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On 2012-04-12 02:32, nathanernest wrote:
Mobius Switch is a great alternative. You only fold the bill into halfs and there is no TT. Sure it requires a bit more hand work but its well worth it in my opinion.
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If you are going to do that much hand work, the Juan Hundred Dollar Bill Switch is better.
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J.G. the magnificent
Special user
Griffith Indiana
859 Posts
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Posted: May 9, 2012 2:46pm
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On 2012-03-31 02:09, Alan Munro wrote:
I start with the upside-down George bit and show that a different fold gets a different result. You won't need an explanation beyond that. People tend not to think things through much. Just look at the elected officials we have. It's the result of a mentally lazy populous - the rest have given up on the government or are affiliated with a "third" party, registering protest votes.
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Somone I know showed me her dollar trick. Though it seemed silly and obvious to me she folded and unflolded to reveal the face in a different dirrection. So you could do this then say now if youd like to see that again I'll do it a bit differently then blow them away with a transformation.
Jeremy Gates
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J.G. the magnificent
Special user
Griffith Indiana
859 Posts
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Posted: May 9, 2012 3:28pm
I really want to get Jay Noblezada Money! http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1755 It can take my new bill to lemon routine to the next level. The problem we are discussing is one I pondered. The post before this one that I made is a great solve but here is another. Borrow a quarter or other coin and do some coin effect or two. Then follow up using a borrowed bill for a coin fold utilizing it to vanish the coin. As you fold it inside you can say how both will vanish. Ask someone to hold the bill wording it like so. "Excuse me but if you will hold this (as they grab it say) you will discover the coin is already gone." Or something like this, then go into a bill switch. Transforming their bill and joke about how it didn't just vanish it transformed into a $5 or whatever you give away. You can then have their coin appear in an orange using your own desired method. Even the bill if you want!
As far as the question of folding into 16th's. Rudy Hunters VITAMIN C uses this for reasons understood if you know it. But from an audiences point of veiw as mentioned it may enable it to be more easilly fit in a coin purse. Which brings me to my new bill to lemon routine I am working on. Like Jay Noblezada Money I envisioned a switch enabling a Wayne houchin French Kiss type of deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HfWyW49-v4 Their bill is switched but they think it is the same signed bill in play. Which is rubber banded and place in a small ALTOID'S tin or coin purse to be held. A lemon is then place in a DEVILS HANKERCHEIF and vanished. Reappearing in a can of ice tea or whatever. The bill is unfolded to be found different and discovered in the lemon in the can. Something like these routines may be an interesting solution.
Can't wait to try it out. People loved my routine using the Mark Wilson method for the bill. Now when I show people this, it will be a signature effect. Hope this helps and great post!
Jeremy Gates
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1899 Posts
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Posted: May 10, 2012 2:02pm
John - have you got this effect?
If not - then don't buy it!
Like an idiot, I was really impressed with the YouTube Demo when I purchased this trick last year. However, it is, without any doubt, one of the biggest pieces of garbage that I've bought in over 35 years.
There's also a MAJOR discrepancy on the DVD when it outlines how to make the gimmick BUT by the time you realise it, the 'necessary' is already stuck in place.
Seriously, this trick is complete and utter cr*p! 
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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boydy
Special user
Scotland
747 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 10:01am
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On 2012-03-30 23:41, Xcath1 wrote:
So you can fit into a tt
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Best answer and the real reason!
Had to laugh when I read this.
"There are no limitations except those we set up in our own minds" Napoleon Hill
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11232 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 10:50pm
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On 2012-05-10 14:02, Merc Man wrote:
John - have you got this effect?
If not - then don't buy it!
Like an idiot, I was really impressed with the YouTube Demo when I purchased this trick last year. However, it is, without any doubt, one of the biggest pieces of garbage that I've bought in over 35 years.
There's also a MAJOR discrepancy on the DVD when it outlines how to make the gimmick BUT by the time you realise it, the 'necessary' is already stuck in place.
Seriously, this trick is complete and utter cr*p!
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Thanks for saving me from my cash "flowing" into Juan's pocket! Can you be more specific about why it's
crap?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1899 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 8:24am
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On 2012-05-11 22:50, daffydoug wrote:
Thanks for saving me from my cash "flowing" into Juan's pocket! Can you be more specific about why it's crap?
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1) As mentioned above, the instructional DVD is poorly produced - with a major discrepancy that is only noticeable once the 'necessary' has been stuck down. It's an English voice-over that clearly wasn't checked before release. Sorry, I know this is an Argentinian production, but Tango always seem to get it right.
2) The made up version of the gimmick that accompanies the DVD is woeful. It's a 'cheque'(?) (that looks as if it comes from a bank nowhere on this planet) that appears to have been stuck to the Dollar Bill using cement - not rubber cement - BRICK CEMENT! Subsequently, the gimmick has more creases than Mick Jagger's face and is stiff and difficult to handle.
3) The transformation is poor. I worked hard to perfect this effect but there are major handling difficulties. The gimmick doesn't always snap into place properly (trying not to give too much away here) and there is a very audible click.
4) There are severe angle difficulties - particularly if you were using this whilst standing, to a seated audience.
5) The clean-up also has angle problems that are difficult to overcome cleanly.
6) For what it is, I think it's really over-priced.
7) I made up my own version (EXACTLY as per the DVD instructions) but after a few hours of practice, the necessary parts of the prop became unstuck and 'bits' fell out.
8) It's so poor, that I didn't even try and sell it via ebaY - I wouldn't have wanted to have ripped a fellow magician off with something that's only fit for the bin.
The best thing that I can say about this trick is that it's useful eye candy for a promotional clip for your website.
Buy it by all means but in my honest opinion, it's complete and utter garbage. Without question the worst prop I've bought since the 'Alida' gimmick - and that really is saying something!
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1899 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 11:59am
Add to the above:
9) If you are changing the cheque into more than one dollar bill (as per the DVD promo clip) then there are added problems; such as covering the bill(s) cleanly and convincingly whilst they are inside the gimmick. The bottom edge has to more or less be completely covered with your fingers during the initial display.
As I posted elsewhere some time back, this is yet another trick whereby a carefully filmed YouTube clip makes something look a miracle. In reality, if this was being demmed over a magic shop counter, they'd have trouble giving it away.
Have I convinced you yet? 
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11232 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 7:31pm
I am VERY convinced!!! The Café is a great place. It can save you tons of bucks. As in this example.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
6569 Posts
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Posted: May 28, 2012 2:23am
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On 2012-03-30 23:41, Xcath1 wrote:
So you can fit into a tt
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That was very funny.
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Lance Pierce
Special user
Oklahoma City OK
814 Posts
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Posted: May 30, 2012 12:02pm
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On 2012-03-30 15:43, levitate wrote:
Based on my experience, the $100 bill switch (with a TT) is probably THE most widely used sleight in bill magic. Why? Well, it looks pretty fair - your hands are "empty" before and after the switch. But I can't get over the fact that it seems totally silly to be folding up a bill like that. In some contexts, doing so does make sense. For example, folding up a bill so it fits in a coin purse, or folding up a bill so it's easier to tear a corner off. I guess even in the mismade bill, you could talk about how you can turn a bill inside out by folding it up real small.
Anyways, this is a general question, but it also applies to an illusion I came up with recently. Basically instead of turning a $1 into $100, I want to write someone a check and magically "cash" it into a real bill, but I can't think of a good reason I'm folding it up. Any suggestions? Thanks
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The fact that you're folding the bill isn't really relevant as long as the audience believes every step of the process is fair and above question. As such, the moment the bill goes out of sight or the performer does anything to cause the audience to think that something untoward was done, the entire thing crumbles a bit, if not completely.
The one advantage that folding the bill has over more open changes is the element of mystery. An open, visual change can be very startling, but it's not as mysterious as slowly, cleanly and fairly folding the bill and unfolding it to show it's different. The moods, the tones, are different. One has a impression that lingers longer and bothers them more.
A handling where a check is "cashed" and changed into money appears in Roger Klause: In Concert.
Recharmed, I'm Sure - A new handling for a modern classic.
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Hookem
New user
9 Posts
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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 10:16pm
Roger Klause's presentation provides a reason for folding the bill to set up a corny gag line. It works for me, when I use it.
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Cipher
New user
50 Posts
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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 11:13pm
You could always present it under the premise of pressure (i.e. just as coal under pressure turns into a diamond, you want to see if you can do it with other objects). This presentation would justify folding the bill very small, and then squeezing it in your closed hand (you could even transition this into coin magic using the same presentation).
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mtgoldstein
New user
60 Posts
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Posted: Nov 3, 2012 2:04pm
I've always used the pretense of showing and teaching the first trick I ever learned as a child. Fold dollar up unfold with one of the moves opposite so George ends up upside down. Then go on with the standard switch routine. Alan mentions it above. Michael Ammar also describes it thus
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Rocky
Regular user
169 Posts
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Posted: Nov 9, 2012 1:00am
Instead of worrying about justifying the folding of the bill...just go out and perform the effect. If enough spectators ask why you need to fold the bill into 16ths then you know you better find another trick to perform.
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