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Paul Rathbun

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

I am thinking of learning a 3 fly routine that utilizes a sh**l. Can anybody recommend an easy routine that utilizes this gimmick? Thanks.
qureyoon

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:19am    Reply with quote   View Profile of qureyoon  

Due to the nature of "FLY", a [ probably is not really a good choice. Most are using extra. Or a modified [, which is the Slippery one.

Unless you want it to do "Across" style, not a "Fly" style, probably a [ can be utilized
David Neighbors

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 5:08am    Reply with quote   View Profile of David Neighbors  

I have a One touch Handling Using a Shell That's not that Hard! And the only time you need a Locking half shell is To get it to appeal! Using it for a vanish a shell works just Fine! P.M. me for Info if you are interested ! Thanks!
Garrett

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Missouri
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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:32am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Garrett  

You might consider Sanchez Fly:

http://www.miraclejunkie.com/Sanchez-Fly-Instant-Video-Download-SanFly.htm
Garrett

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Missouri
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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:45am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Garrett  

Another good one is Coin Melody by Troy Hooser:

http://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-downloads/close-up-magic-downloads/coin-melody/

It's more than just a 3-Fly, but very magical looking.
fonda57

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chicago
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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 10:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of fonda57  

Gary Kurtz Trio from his Unexplainable Acts book uses one of those, also known as Misty Like a Dream from a video.

mike
rannie

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 1:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rannie  

You might want to try BFLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fPib9cJ-w

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puggo

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 2:01pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of puggo  

Quote:

On 2012-04-12 13:00, rannie wrote:
You might want to try BFLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fPib9cJ-w



Nice work Rannie

Is it available anywhere?
evikshin

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Posted: Apr 13, 2012 12:32pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of evikshin  

Although it doesn't utilize a [, I highly recommend Eric Jones's Simplex 3-Fly, off his "Metal" DVD. Gets great reactions if you practice and perform it the way he does. Not at all hard to do.
magiclimber

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Boulder, Colorado
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Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magiclimber  

Rannie,

That routine looks great, where you recommend learning something along those lines.

Very nice work!
J-Mac

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Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:31pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of J-Mac  

Quote:

On 2012-04-12 13:00, rannie wrote:
You might want to try BFLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fPib9cJ-w



I love B-Fly Rannie!

I haven't seen much from you for a while - you need to keep pumping out that fantastic coin magic!

Mabuhay!

Jim
magiclimber

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Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magiclimber  

Quote:

On 2012-04-13 13:21, magiclimber wrote:
Rannie,

That routine looks great, where you recommend learning something along those lines.

Very nice work!



Also, could you recommend a basic book on grammar...haha, that should have been "where DO you recommend..."
webtech

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Posted: Apr 14, 2012 10:21am    Reply with quote   View Profile of webtech  

Just downloaded Sanchez Fly. I was looking for a good 3Fly with a shell. Thanks for the link Garrett!
Garrett

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Missouri
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Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Garrett  

Quote:

On 2012-04-14 10:21, webtech wrote:
Just downloaded Sanchez Fly. I was looking for a good 3Fly with a shell. Thanks for the link Garrett!



My pleasure! Let me know what you think of it, as I was thinking of picking it up myself. You can never know too many 3-Fly routines, right?
Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: Apr 15, 2012 8:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Thanks to all who commented. I will probably give the Sanchez Fly a try first.
Dr_J_Ayala

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Posted: Apr 15, 2012 10:29pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dr_J_Ayala  

Hey there Paul!

The one that I do the most is mentioned above - Coin Melody by Troy Hooser. It will take a fair amount of work to get it down (nothing really advanced save for one of the vanishes to most people, but that can be changed to suit your skill level), but the nice part about it is that it can be taken apart, and then re-assembled to your needs. That is essentially what Troy did to create that routine.
Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: Apr 19, 2012 1:32am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Quote:

On 2012-04-12 09:45, Garrett wrote:
Another good one is Coin Melody by Troy Hooser:

http://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-downloads/close-up-magic-downloads/coin-melody/

It's more than just a 3-Fly, but very magical looking.



This uses just one regular shell? If so, quite impressive.
cperkins

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Posted: Apr 19, 2012 9:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of cperkins  

Hooser's Coin Melody wraps a routine around a three fly in the intro and the ending. A good way to present any three fly routine in my opinion.

Interesting how he handles the fourth "you know what."

Not at all difficult if that concerns you.

chuck
Garrett

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Missouri
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Posted: Apr 19, 2012 10:01am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Garrett  

Paul,

Yes, Troy's routine uses just one regular shell.

gh
Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: Apr 22, 2012 7:01pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Can anyone comment on how difficult the Sanchez Fly is going to be? Most my coin work is of the matrix and chink-a-chink variety. Working with a [ in the hands will be a new venture for me.
funsway

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Posted: Apr 22, 2012 7:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of funsway  

I have 3Fly type effect called "Jingle" that uses any three coins -- best borrowed and no gaff.

It uses the sound of the coins clinking together as "convincer," "directed focus," and "misdirection."

fairly easy, but timing is critical

a second effect called "3 for Lie" can be performed with any three identical small objects, not just coins. I originated this effect using almonds, but have performed it with stones, coins, candy kisses and three small skulls on Halloween. Comes with a neat story line.

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Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: May 13, 2012 3:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Quote:

On 2012-04-12 04:19, qureyoon wrote:
Due to the nature of "FLY", a [ probably is not really a good choice. Most are using extra. Or a modified [, which is the Slippery one.

Unless you want it to do "Across" style, not a "Fly" style, probably a [ can be utilized



I am new to this realm of coin magic, i.e. 3 fly routines. What is the difference between Across style and Fly style. Is it coins in the hands versus coins at the fingertips? Thanks.
Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: May 13, 2012 3:40am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Quote:

On 2012-04-12 13:00, rannie wrote:
You might want to try BFLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fPib9cJ-w



Rannie, is the routine in the link you provided available for purchase? Thanks.

-Paul
paisa23

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Posted: May 13, 2012 2:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paisa23  

There are many out there man. Some of them harder then others. I found Chris Kenners 3 Fly is really nice with four coins... I lost on of my Silver Dollars so I do it with s [ and it still comes out really nice... Reed Mclintocks was the first one I ever learned and that was pretty easy... Now I'm considering getting Pretty Fly but it looks like it will require a bit more practice.

Here is the link to my Modified Kenner routine with a [ and the begining I think was from Paul wilsons 3 fly. I don't know I like to learn a lot of them and kinda mesh them up to make my own...

The first video was me well over 5 yrs ago doing my first 3 Fly from Reed Mclintock. and the second is last year me mixing that with Chris Kenners .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chtPG5zTb3M


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Paul Rathbun

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Posted: May 13, 2012 3:48pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Paisa23,

thanks for the post. Would you suggest starting with Chris Kenner's 3 Fly? If so, where can it be learned/purchased? Thanks.

-Paul
paisa23

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Posted: May 13, 2012 4:29pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paisa23  

OK well I think others will say no, but to be honest I do not have amazing coin chops... just enough to get by with the effects that I do with coins and even though at first it was a little knacky I got the hang of the moves rather quickly. I'm still always fine tuning it but yeah I would say yes its a relatively easy 3 fly to learn but hard to master. If that makes sense.

Where to get it, I don't know for sure but maybe this will help. I have had my book for a few years...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic28421.php

hope this helps.

Also this is Chris doing it after his lecture..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQZX7LkSpA

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Paul Rathbun

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Posted: May 13, 2012 6:10pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Thanks again paisa23.

Any opinions on Daryl's as far as worth learning and difficulty factor for a newbie like me?
Dr_J_Ayala

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Posted: May 13, 2012 6:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dr_J_Ayala  

Paul - I actually started with 3 Fly III myself (or rather, it is one of the ones I started with), and I still occasionally use it today when its set-up will flow right into another routine. It is rather easy to do, and if any of the moves prove too difficult at first, you can change them around a little bit to help yourself out. Once you learn the routine, it is easy to mix and match the way the coins go across too. Regardless of the "Latest and Greatest" phase of magic, I think most performers would consider 3 Fly III one of the better versions out there, and if it not already considered so, in my opinion, I think it is destined to become a classic.

As usual, Daryl does a great job of teaching the routine and all the moves, and he also gives you some helpful hints and tips. The typed instructions and DVD also come with 4 dollar-sized (approximately) plastic poker chips to help get you started, but of course you can use half-dollar sized coins/chips if you prefer.

Coin Melody from Troy Hooser is one of my favorite routines, but it may not be for a beginner, although the routine is very well taught by Troy. It is packed full of magic and if there is a downside to doing the full routine the way Troy does it, it would be having to remember the correct order of the sequences (for some people). The only reason I say it may not be for the beginner is because of some of the sleights involved, but as with many of the routines that Troy publishes, the sleights/moves and phases of this routine can be changed or eliminated to suit. Highly recommended.

3 Fry from Chris Kenner can be found in a book called Spectacle by Stephen Minch. I personally would recommend learning something like the Daryl routine or the Hooser routine before trying to tackle this version, although it is a very good and very magical routine when practiced and polished.
Paul Rathbun

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Michigan
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Posted: May 13, 2012 7:27pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Paul Rathbun  

Thanks again.
TopChange

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Connecticut
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Posted: May 13, 2012 8:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of TopChange  

R Paul Wilson's Crowded Coins is a real easy 3 fly to learn.
Can be found in his Knock em Dead video.
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