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nonvpro

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Posted: May 6, 2012 7:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of nonvpro  

I know it's been around for a long time, but does anyone use the old "Pride & Joy cards anymore? If so, would anyone care to share in what contex they use them? Here is a picture of the card I'm referring to:

inigmntoya

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Posted: May 7, 2012 8:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of inigmntoya  

I don't have one, but I would imagine I'd use it in the same context as "hey, let me show you a picture of my two kids!"

pepka

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Posted: May 8, 2012 2:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of pepka  

I really can't imagine "Pride and Joy" being funny to any of today's audiences.

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nonvpro

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Posted: May 8, 2012 10:25am    Reply with quote   View Profile of nonvpro  

Agreed. Just wondering how they were used in the past. I purchased a box of some very old magic at a yard sale and I found the Pride & Joy card in it. Thanks to all for responding.
pepka

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Posted: May 8, 2012 7:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of pepka  

The very first time I walked into a magic shop about 25 years ago, the man behind the counter showed me his Pride and Joy. I wasn't impressed. I walked out with a set of juggling clubs. Hokey things like this are the reason that magicians have such a bad reputation and aren't often taken serious as entertainers.

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Rocky

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Posted: May 9, 2012 12:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rocky  

Quote:

On 2012-05-08 19:21, pepka wrote:
The very first time I walked into a magic shop about 25 years ago, the man behind the counter showed me his Pride and Joy. I wasn't impressed. I walked out with a set of juggling clubs. Hokey things like this are the reason that magicians have such a bad reputation and aren't often taken serious as entertainers.



... magic is inherently hokey with or without gags like the Pride and Joy cards.
pepka

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Posted: May 10, 2012 12:17am    Reply with quote   View Profile of pepka  

Maybe the stuff you do is, but not mine....and certainly not everyone's.

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Preacherman

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Posted: May 10, 2012 12:41am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Preacherman  

Here's proof that some of the gags out there are from a bygone era. I remember when Pride Furniture Polish and Joy Dishwashing soap were as common as Pledge and Dawn - I also remember a time when folks (particularly dads and granddads (or grandpas)) were proud to have a picture of their kids in their wallet (not saying that there aren't still some today that carry pics around).

The first time I saw the Pride and Joy card was after a lengthy story that an older gentlemen told me about his kids - all the feats they'd accomplished and the things they'd done to make him proud and bring laughter into the home...after a story that hooked me completely he asked if I would like to see his pride and joy - and you know what I got to see.

It is a hokie trick, maybe. Does it bring back fond memories of a time we've left behind, it does for me. Do I carry the pic around, no (but it is available at my local magic shop).

Some of what I do is hokie - some of what I do is comical - some of what I do is serious...you know what they say, "to each his own".

Since Pride and Joy are not household names anymore, these cards are (perhaps) drifting into antiquity - but I still like 'em.

JD

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daffydoug

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Posted: May 10, 2012 7:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of daffydoug  

I have pride and joy, my two kids, and one about my "dead Aunt" I never use them. But I think when you are with casual friends, and you are not into any kind of serious performance mode, and you just want a "groan" they are perfect.

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murf

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Posted: May 11, 2012 10:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of murf  

The first time I saw one of these outside a magic shop (come to think of it, the ONLY time I've seen one outside of a magic shop), was when my daughter was in highschool, and a classmate showed us her pride & joy. When I remembered this, my first thought was that youngsters still find it funny --- my second thought was that my daughter turns 40 this year....

Murf
Vlad_77

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Posted: May 12, 2012 3:03pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Vlad_77  

Quote:

On 2012-05-09 00:07, Rocky wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-05-08 19:21, pepka wrote:
The very first time I walked into a magic shop about 25 years ago, the man behind the counter showed me his Pride and Joy. I wasn't impressed. I walked out with a set of juggling clubs. Hokey things like this are the reason that magicians have such a bad reputation and aren't often taken serious as entertainers.



... magic is inherently hokey with or without gags like the Pride and Joy cards.



Rocky,

Respectfully submitted, but I trust your comment bears no veracity except for you and those of like minds. I do agree with Pepka that a bad reputation DOES exist among other entertainers, but, they recognize that the ART is not at fault. The bad rep comes from POOR performers. As I write this I wonder for instance what you find "hokey" about, oh, Rene Lavand's magic for instance?

Ahimsa,
Vlad
dooblehorn

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Posted: May 12, 2012 9:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of dooblehorn  

Quote:

On 2012-05-10 19:37, daffydoug wrote:
I have pride and joy, my two kids, and one about my "dead Aunt" I never use them. But I think when you are with casual friends, and you are not into any kind of serious performance mode, and you just want a "groan" they are perfect.


I agree with daffydoug...I actually think they are charming in their hokey ness . But I suppose you have to be old enough to unnerstand the pun...
pepka

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Posted: May 14, 2012 12:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of pepka  

As usual, Vlad hit the nail on the head.

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patrick1515

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Posted: May 16, 2012 4:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of patrick1515  

We all know it's a "groaner". It's a hokey 'ol gag for sure, but if you use that to your advantage, play to that angle it always gets a laugh.
Its a throw away gag, hook 'em with a good story line then hit 'em with the punchline. It buys me 30 seconds of reset time.
Rocky

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Posted: May 19, 2012 12:29am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rocky  

Thank you for both of your insights,Vlad and Pepka. I was thinking of a trip to Las Vegas several years ago and took some friends to see Mac King (hardly in the Rene Levand category of beatifully structured and classy magic, but he sure does a wonderful job with his show and "hokey" character!). Our trip then took us to Los Angeles and a visit to the Magic Castle.My friends remember the fun and corny Mac King show more than the performances we saw the night we were at the castle (Eugene Burger was the featured performer along with several local close-up guys who were just...plain... awesome). Perhaps my friends represent a small percentage of the general population who go to a magic show to be entertained in the genre that is Mac King, Karrel Fox, and Al Flosso.Regardless,just as there are different types of music there are different types of magic...to each his own.
Steve Landavazo

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Posted: May 31, 2012 11:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Steve Landavazo  

I show a very proud look on my face, and ask who would like to see a picture of my pride and joy? Women especially think naturally you are referring to your kids. I then take out the pride and joy card for a fun laugh! Real easy to pull off...Ha! Steve

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Zombie Magic

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Posted: Jun 3, 2012 6:06pm    Zombie Magic is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Zombie Magic  

The Pride & Joy is great if you are 65+ in years and are NOT performing.
magicHart

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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 11:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicHart  

Hmmmm, when I first saw this I thought it was funny and a bit clever.......

that was 50 years ago!
MaxfieldsMagic

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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 11:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of MaxfieldsMagic  

Now if you could do the "gag," then have it visually change into a real photo of your child with a snap or a wave, then it might be worth pulling out of the wallet again. Maybe a photo of your kids polishing the dishes and making bubbles on the furniture...?

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Steve Landavazo

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Posted: Jul 6, 2012 3:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Steve Landavazo  

Great idea Maxfields. Pride and Joy is a classic. Please don't under estimate it! :0) Steve

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Inert

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Posted: Jul 6, 2012 5:28pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Inert  

Can anyone confirm for me that 'Pride & Joy' was an Emerson & West release?
magicdoctor

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Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:06pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicdoctor  

I am a professional Corporate magician and I use gags like this all the time.It's the simple things I find that get great laughs.People want to laugh and forget whats going on in there life for just awhile. just my 2cents worth.
Michael

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Poof-Daddy

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 12:01am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Poof-Daddy  

I like to use it to break the ice. a woman will almost always want to see a picture of your pride and joy. there is then either laughter or rolled eyes and telling you that you are nuts. I then say actually the bar or restaraunt magician so let me get past that easy one and show you a couple real magic tricks. works for me
Mercurio

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Posted: Jul 17, 2012 3:50pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mercurio  

Lee Jacobs Productions was the maker of the Pride & Joy cards (mini and 8.5 x 11" size) in the 70s and 80s.

Inert

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Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:58pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Inert  

Thanks for that information Mercurio. It has helped in another thread here on the Café.
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