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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 5:41pm
There are many, many, many nasty little civil wars and insurgencies happening all the time that we hardly ever see on the news. There are nasty people doing nasty things to people who happen to be in a group with a different name, and these nasty people can smile and shake your hand after doing these nasty things. And when you're smacked in the face with photos or videos (or in person if you're a soldier or journalist) of these things you think these are the sorts of things that could have only happened in the distant past, but they still happen. Every day people murder, torture, mutilate, rape, and exterminate each other.
I throw stuff.
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Woland
Special user
646 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 6:31pm
We are not only the beast. But as Blaise Pascal remarked, "L'homme n'est ni ange ni bête et le malheur veut que qui veut faire l'ange fait la bête." (Man is neither an angel nor a beast, and misfortune has it that whoever wants to play the angel, becomes a beast.)
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 8:56pm
Good thing you provided the translation, I never learned esperanto.
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acesover
Special user
I believe I have
983 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 9:40pm
I thought it was Ebonics. 
Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch’entrate!”]
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mastermindreader
V.I.P.
Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 10:11pm
I can't paste the results here, but if you go to http://joel.net/EBONICS/Translator and paste in "Man is neither an angel nor a beast, and misfortune has it that whoever wants to play the angel, becomes a beast." you will get the proper Ebonics translation. (Well, sort of.)
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 10:40pm
Satir - distractor
So long as some would feed bigots or reward vanity...
my way is my way - I presume you have your own way.
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kambiz
Inner circle
Perth, down by the cool of the pool
1410 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:04pm
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On 2012-05-11 16:10, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
People love to fight. Just for the sake of fighting sometimes.
Even when there is no need for it.
Watch combat sports. Fencing to the UFC. We love it, innately.
We have monks who fight.
When they actually have things to protect, they'll fight for it, brutally.
Justifications to fight exist for everyone if they look for it.
They worry this will happen even before it happens, so they get ready for the fight.
This is just the nature of the beast.
And...
We are the beast.
War is the culmination of this.
At least I think so.
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Pakar, I love you and every attribute of your character is noble, however this post that you wrote us a fundamental false premise which has distorted human reality
"Alas, notwithstanding the laudable efforts, in every land, of well-intentioned individuals working to improve circumstances in society, the obstacles preventing the realization of such a vision seem insurmountable to many. Their hopes founder on erroneous assumptions about human nature that so permeate the structures and traditions of much of present-day living as to have attained the status of established fact. These assumptions appear to make no allowance for the extraordinary reservoir of spiritual potential available to any illumined soul who draws upon it; instead, they rely for justification on humanity’s failings, examples of which daily reinforce a common sense of despair. A layered veil of false premises thus obscures a fundamental truth: The state of the world reflects a distortion of the human spirit, not its essential nature."
Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break.
.....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay!
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mastermindreader
V.I.P.
Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:09pm
Kam-
Well said, Kam. Anyone who disagrees with that should have his butt kicked. 
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:31pm
Language comuncates models. Whether those models are verifiable and accurate are seperate issues.
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mastermindreader
V.I.P.
Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:35pm
Remember- There is a "rat" in "separate." Otherwise the wrong model is conveyed.
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:51pm
The next lemma in an argument was going to concern "Shahada" but some here need to distract.
There is research on a topic know as "inner or imaginary audience". In magic literature they may be noticed as the reporter who issues the "effect" description. It may be that mot all of us have such deluded inattentive and yet polite inner audiences.
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2012 11:57pm
Maybe humor helps us to process a difficult subject without being overwhelmed.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:00am
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On 2012-05-11 23:57, critter wrote:
Maybe humor helps us to process a difficult subject without being overwhelmed.
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see defense mechanism. A related quesion is "what would one lose if one accepts X". There are distinctions that bear on this between childlike vs childish and maturing vs growing older.
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:10am
The world is ridiculous. Laughing at such a ridiculous place doesn't seem to me a thing to be scorned.
A good joke has gotten me into fights and out of fights. Such is life.
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:17am
Satir category... distractor
focus
you don't get to walk out of the forest if you stop in the middle and walk in a small circle... even if giggling.
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:23am
South Park is a good example to me. Maybe some folks hate the show and maybe they don't, that's alright.
South Park doesn't shy from the horrors in the world. The episode they did on modern piracy was horrific. It had a horrific ending and spoke unflinchingly about the realities of the situations that lead some to that life.
But the same episode also had lightsaber jokes. What are ya gonna' do?
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:27am
So what do we do? Sign a petition? Take up arms? Commit suicide?
Tossing one-liners in-between the serious comments isn't going to destroy the world.
I'd rather do that then to get into a screaming match. Or is it an ALL CAPS SHOUTING MATCH?!
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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mastermindreader
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Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:33am
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On 2012-05-11 23:51, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
The next lemma in an argument was going to concern "Shahada" but some here need to distract.
There is research on a topic know as "inner or imaginary audience". In magic literature they may be noticed as the reporter who issues the "effect" description. It may be that mot all of us have such deluded inattentive and yet polite inner audiences.
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Does anyone know if Babelfish translates Gibberish to English?
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GlenD
Inner circle
LosAngeles, Ca
1145 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:41am
I don't know but if it can learn to distort bad poetry that would be welcomed.
"A miracle is something that seems impossible but happens anyway" - Griffin
"Any future where you succeed, is one where you tell the truth." - Griffin (Griffin rocks!)
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:41am
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...I'd rather do that then to get into a screaming match...
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than to get into a screaming match.
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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GlenD
Inner circle
LosAngeles, Ca
1145 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:42am
You fixed it before I got a chance to shout at you about it, but than what does it really matter?
"A miracle is something that seems impossible but happens anyway" - Griffin
"Any future where you succeed, is one where you tell the truth." - Griffin (Griffin rocks!)
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:43am
Their official language is English 
Reading remains fundamental.
I wonder what other wondrous fictions are being proffered in schools today.
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:54am
From the page of the proffered way: http://www.green-agenda.com/globalgovernance.html
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| The following are excerpts from Our Global Neighbourhood:
"...countries are having to accept that in certain fields, sovereignty has to be exercised collectively, particularly in respect of the global commons."
"...the principle of sovereignty...must be further adapted to recognize changing realities."
"...there is a need to weigh a state's right to autonomy against its people's right to security." |
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Looks like the same old daydream of subjugation with a nicer font to me.
Got anything else?
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:54am
Nevermind.
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:56am
Do they play Beethovan to accompany the videos of human suffering?
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mastermindreader
V.I.P.
Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:57am
Okay- Does anyone know, then, if there is a translator for pretentious pedantry?
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:58am
Re:
Sovereign nations.
There's good money for weapons traffickers in insurgency.
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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mastermindreader
V.I.P.
Seattle, WA
6071 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 1:01am
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On 2012-05-12 00:58, critter wrote:
Re:
Sovereign nations.
There's good money for weapons traffickers in insurgency.
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Do they get health benefits and paid vacations?
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critter
Inner circle
Spokane, WA
2334 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 1:03am
When you make as much money as some of the arms traffickers, you don't need benefits or a paid vacation.
One doc we watched was on Victor Bout. Some interesting stuff there.
I throw stuff.
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Ichi-go ichi-e
"Courtesy is as much a mark of a gentleman as courage."
-Theodore Roosevelt
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25257 Posts
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Posted: May 12, 2012 1:06am
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On 2012-05-11 18:31, Woland wrote:
...(Man is neither an angel nor a beast, and misfortune has it that whoever wants to play the angel, becomes a beast.)
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That's where Stan Lee got the idea for the X-men?
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