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Eric the Excellent

Loyal user
Montana
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Posted: May 13, 2012 8:29pm
Can anyone recommend a high quality rigid rope? All the ones I have seen for sale at magic stores have always seemed... cheap.
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R Don

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West Coast
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Posted: May 13, 2012 11:27pm
In Japans Disneyland : Tenyo (I think) make one and it has a mickey mouse sewn to it which can be removed.
Bright red rope also green.plastic core.Well made. I do not know how you can get one from here though.
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Bill Hegbli

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Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
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Posted: May 14, 2012 1:38am
They are all cheap now because they are made in China and India.
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Woland

Special user
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Posted: May 14, 2012 7:13am
Thanks for the question, Eric. It reminded me to check Elmwood Magic for the "Rope Fantasy" again.
It was recommended here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=228342&forum=9&start=30
But it is still "out of stock."
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Dr_J_Ayala

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Posted: May 14, 2012 10:06am
Try calling Paul at Elmwood (if you have not already done so) and ask him if he is able to give you a timeline as to when Rope Fantasy may be back in stock. You can also ask to see if he knows of any other quality versions, which might give you some leads.
I feel bad that are still without your rope, but I hope this helps.
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Woland

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Posted: May 14, 2012 5:21pm
Every little bit helps, thank you, Dr. Ayala.
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Bill Hegbli

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Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
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Posted: May 14, 2012 6:41pm
Rope Fantasy sounds like the "U.F. Grant Miniature Rope of India" trick from the 1960's. This will not work as a Stiff Rope or Rigid Rope like the comedy models on the market.
There was 2 versions of this, the 1st had lead content in the gimmick, and was changed to the "Improved" model when lead was found to be not good for humans. The Improved used a sleeving technique, not many wanted to mess with, so the trick faded away.
I am of couse not saying it is a similar trick, I am only saying it reads like it.
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Eric the Excellent

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Montana
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Posted: May 19, 2012 3:27pm
Is this, by any chance, the Rope Fantasy that you were looking for, Woland?
http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/product_info.php?products_id=8151
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Woland

Special user
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Posted: May 20, 2012 5:12pm
I wouldn't know, Eric, it was Dr Ayala's suggestion. Looks like it might do, though.
Doc?
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Bill Hegbli

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Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
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Posted: May 20, 2012 6:17pm
Rope Fantasy is another U.F. Grant trick marketed may years ago, under the name Stiff Rope or Hypnotised Stiff Rope, can't remember now as to the exact name. The feature was the entire rope became stiff as in the video. The original was made shorter so it could be held with one hand.
With today's laws on lead poisoning, I cannot believe this is on the market, unless a different substance has been found to replace the original gimmick.
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Dr_J_Ayala

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Posted: May 22, 2012 4:16pm
This appears to be the same Rope Fantasy that I have which, as Bill mentions, is the redesign of the U.F. Grant 'Stiff Rope' model. The rope that I have was made a bit shorter than you see in the link above, but not quite as short as the Grant version. Also, assuming that the manufacturer has not reverted back to old material, the current gimmick in the ropes is NOT made with lead and the one that I have is also lead-free.
I hope this helps.
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Woland

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Posted: May 22, 2012 11:23pm
Thank you, Doctor Ayala! I plan on ordering from this purveyor, and I will post my reactions to the item here in due course.
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