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philestar
New user
7 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 3:42pm
Hello,
I am searching a different way of forcing a tarot card : I usualy use a equivoque, or cut deeper force (christ force).
I would like to find something else :without touching the card - no classic force - and no verbal control too.
Shell I have too find a automatic force that fits with tarot card or somewhere else?
Do you have any idea?
(sorry for bad english  )
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gothicmagic
Loyal user
The Kingdom of Vladmania
204 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 3:52pm
You could use a numerical force as Numerology and Tarot are frequently in the same circles
the 10/20 force could work (put the force card at the 11th position, have them select a number Between 10 and 20
count those cards onto the table on top of each other, remind them that in numerology you seek to have a single digit,
so add the previous numbers (if they chose 12 1+2=3) count those down onto the table and you will have the force card
Vlad ^0^
www.Gothicmagic.com
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Paul Prater
Elite user
White Hall, AR
407 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 4:19pm
How about using a card box? If you aren't sure what I'm talking about, PM. Since this is a public area, I can't post methods.
www.paulprater.com
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gothicmagic
Loyal user
The Kingdom of Vladmania
204 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 6:21pm
Sorry about that, I thought they all had to sign in to access the Café in general (otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned the above)
Vlad ^0^
www.Gothicmagic.com
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actorscotty
Veteran user
wilmington nc
392 Posts
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Posted: May 14, 2012 11:08pm
Don't want to give all away but, I will just say the forse using a double backer would work well, pm me if this is too vague
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Michael_MacDonald
Inner circle
Washington
1364 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 1:28am
Get karnival of magick, here is a routine in there that forces a tarot where you never touch the cards and the spec actually chooses the card freely <in his mind>
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philestar
New user
7 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 2:51am
To Actorscotty,
I suppose you mean "Double-Backed Card". Since I use a very old tarot, gaffed card is not possible.
To Michael_MacDonald,
I'll have a look at "karnival of magick".
Thanks
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Paul Prater
Elite user
White Hall, AR
407 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 7:45am
A gaffes card is possible if you have a scanner and card stock.
www.paulprater.com
Check out my podcast. http://paulprater.com/forperformersa.html
GET MY BOOK "MALEFICIUM" and "The Magic of the Medicine Show" from Leaping Lizards.
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Hugh Entwistle
Regular user
170 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 7:59am
I would use a card box as mentioned above, or if you need to force them several timee, you could try a palm and a ditch.
Can I just ask a question, why don't you want to use classic force or riffle? Remember, in the eyes of the spectator, any of those will seem like a fair choice
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philestar
New user
7 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 9:22am
To Paul Prater
My cards are very old, yellow, and used. I could try but I think it will not be deceptive.
To Hugh Entwistle
I don't want to use riffle because I do it with card and I don't want any assimilation with this.
I already use a classic force with postal card in a previous routine.
I should look to a card box.
Thanks
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maxnew40
Veteran user
397 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 4:57pm
I like Gothics idea of using the 10-20. It ties in Numerology which is often associated with Tarot. It would allow you to talk a bit about the connections between Tarot and Numerology.
Anyway thanks to gothicmagic for planting that seed in my mind, I am going to work with that a bit.
-Max
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Laurent van Trigt
Regular user
159 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 6:43pm
Pit Hartling had a brilliant one in his act 'Heinz', though I don't know if he has released it.
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ufo
Inner circle
Springfield, Missouri
1174 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 7:37pm
I use a method built off of the three pile cut for a reading. I will PM you the info.
Ed Underwood
www.remarkablearts.com
Conquering the world one audience at a time!
"The re-souling of magic should be the aim of twenty first century magicians"-S.H. Sharpe
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philestar
New user
7 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 3:37am
Hello,
Thanks for all the advise.
Do you have an idea where I can find a nice wooden card box That fits with 22 tarot cards (not too big)?
(I can only find plastic card box / or bicycle format).
Thanks,
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PROF BC
Special user
614 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 4:39am
Talk to the good people at Smoke and Mirrors:
http://smokeandmirrorsuk.wordpress.com/change-boxes-buy-now/buynowbenedict/
Best,
BC
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MagiChrisMitch
Elite user
472 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 7:03pm
I also suggest Smoke and Mirrors. They are making me a nice aged and faded black one. Recently their email server has been down so you know.
CHRIS
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philestar
New user
7 Posts
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Posted: May 21, 2012 12:41pm
Thanks for the adress of smoke and mirrors.
Also, I had the chance to see Tony Chris DVD! Did not Knew that guy. Quite interesting.
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