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The MailMan

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Posted: May 18, 2012 6:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of The MailMan  

Hi,

I am putting together a cups and balls routine and want to find something to help me with my final loads.

As the routine stands I will be going to my left side for all three loads. This lead to problems with putting all the loads in my jacket pocket as there was a noticable bulge and every now and then two of them became wedged in the pocket.

I want something that I can put on my hip under my jacket that wont be seen from the front if I present on stage. It needs to be able to hold three large loads and not much else, it is purely for the steals at the end.

Does anyone have any suggestions of solutions? I have looked at army surplus ammo pouches, fanny packs etc but I wanted to get some opinions here first.
AGMagic

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Posted: May 18, 2012 7:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of AGMagic  

You could use a billiard ball dropper gimmick. There are basically two types, a wire clip that holds one ball, and one that is a fabric tube that pins at one end and has elastic at the other to keep the load from falling out. Both types are shown in many of the older magic books.

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kentfgunn

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Posted: May 18, 2012 8:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of kentfgunn  

MailMan,

Don't put all the loads in same pocket. If you feel having three loads in one pocket is a problem, change the routine a little.

Consider putting a topit or pocket extension in your coat. My tailor put some great pleated pockets inside my jacket that extend the size of my pockets. The balls do NOT show or change the line of my coat at all now.

Loads etc. look like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYmGnK4K9g

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Jon Blakeney

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Posted: May 19, 2012 12:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jon Blakeney  

Ten out of ten Kent.that was a great routine.

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Tryllejakob

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Denmark
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Posted: May 19, 2012 3:27am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Tryllejakob  

I use two small size cups and two potatoes for final loads. one in each of my pants pockets. If you are performing David Williamson or Tommy Wonder type routine.
Then two loads are perfect, just lift both cups and reveal the loads at the same time.
Gives a great chock for the audience and they don't know the difference between the diffent loads.

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Bill Palmer

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Posted: May 19, 2012 12:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

@The MailMan:

We can't tell you how to do your loads in this section of the forum. You need to go to Ever So Sleightly, which is in a section of the Café that is not open to the public. Once you have 50 posts, you can visit this part of the forum. So make 50 posts. Then you can learn the stuff that we don't want out in the open.

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gdw

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Posted: May 19, 2012 8:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of gdw  

Mr. Palmer, did you mean the Secret Sessions section?

Any who, for load management, Tommy Wonder is a MUST read. Not just his two cup routine, which requires no pocket space for the final loads, in his Books of Wonder he goes into a lot more depth on final loads, loading sequences, etc.

Also, consider different approaches, not just multiple larger balls/objects. Wonder's routine will give you a great example of this. Other routines to look at for examples of different thinking on finales are Jason Latimire's, Shawn Farquar (can never remember how to spell his last name, sorry Shawn) although his routine can't be seen on line, only likely to see it live, David Regal's Cups and Balls and Cups and Balls.

Michael Ammar's routine is much more traditional, but a great example of handling the loading sequence.

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