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Tanay

Regular user
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Posted: May 19, 2012 2:03pm
Hi guys,
Recently I just bought some Magical Morgans from Joe Mogar - which by the way, are amazing!!
I also purchased his Pocket Pal, a magnetic back-pocket holdout.
I'm having so much fun with this, basically I have just been experimenting with ways to vanish a coin completely, focusing attention on the other hand while the dirty hand ditches the coin onto the holdout. Then afterwards the same process reversed to retrieve and produce the coin.
Are there any books/DVDs/ideas published (or even, ideas which you may have) on using such a holdout effectively?
Thanks a lot! 
Tanay
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Atom3339

Inner circle
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Posted: May 19, 2012 10:03pm
David Neighbors is an expert. He showed us a few things in Spokane. We are currently editing video we'll be releasing on DVD, to be announced here on the Magic Café.
Meanwhile, you can PM David AND he may pop up here to chime in.
I remember he effectively used body movement when using a mag holdout.
TH
Occupy Your Dream
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David Neighbors

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Posted: May 19, 2012 10:22pm
Thanks Atom,
I have A few things in print Using Hooked coins or Mult. Hooked coins! Any of them Could be Changed to A steal core coin and a magnetic Hold out! And as Atom said Some of it will be on The DVD SET!
And the booklet " Here's HOO on coins" By Bill Spooner! Using all stuff With a hooked coin All could be used
With a Steal core coin and A magnetic hold out! Ok thanks Gang!
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Douglas Lippert

Inner circle
E Pluribus Unum
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Posted: May 22, 2012 8:41am
Don't rush the ditch. Look in Bobo for some hooked coin ideas. Some of the routines can be altered for a back pocket holdout. Be sure to come back and share your results. Good luck!
Douglas Lippert
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Michael Rubinstein

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Posted: May 22, 2012 9:21am
You might want to look into Vic Trabucco's holdout, same concept, very clever, and some good moves taught.
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mystre71

Inner circle
martinsburg west virginia
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Posted: May 22, 2012 10:27am
John Bannon in one of his books, I think Smoke and Mirrors, uses what he calls and I/O (Input/Output) holdout. It's not magnetic but the same idea can be applied to the pocket pal.
Joe
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ljsviol

Loyal user
244 Posts
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Posted: May 22, 2012 10:28am
Michael,
Regarding the Trabucco holdout: I was reading the article you have posted on the New York Coin Magic Seminar website about the 2008 NYCM seminar:
http://www.newyorkcoinmagic.net/M210_Coin_Seminar.pdf
It mentions Vic Trabucco's performance, and the holdout, pg. 48, middle column, 3rd paragraph).
I was curious if his use of the holdout is shown in any of the NYCMS DVDs? I was reading the descriptions and couldn't find that specifically mentioned.
Thanks for your help with this, and for the wonderful set of NYCMS DVDs; what a great learning resource!
Larry S.
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Atom3339

Inner circle
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Posted: May 22, 2012 11:35am
Um, Nothing is up my sleeve.
Like to suggest, I'd add a mag holdout to your arsenal but mix it up with some "old-fashion" holdout ideas (yes, referring to Bobo's).
TH
Occupy Your Dream
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BuddhaStephy

New user
Nevada USA
79 Posts
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Posted: May 22, 2012 1:06pm
Have you looked into the Subterfuge Magic System?
http://www.preceptmagic.com/product/subterfuge-magic-system
There are a few threads on the Café regarding the SMS with reviews as well.
preceptmagic.com
Serious Tools For Serious Magicians
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Michael Rubinstein

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Posted: May 22, 2012 4:53pm
Trabucco performs a trick not explained on the NYCMS dvd, that just might be using the holdout. It is in the bonus section on one of the volumes he appears in (sorry, don't have the dvds in front of me so I can't give you the number).
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Mb217

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Posted: May 22, 2012 5:14pm
Or you might just holdout in plain sight via the Liwag Subtlety. I do it all the time. 
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