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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 3:04am
For only $14.99, plus tax, you get a dvd and the special cards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwffAccOOHw&feature=player_embedded
The ad says "This will blow the spectators mind". I think that's true. After watching it, you want to shoot yourself in the head.
I think Vernon would cry if he saw this.
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Uli Weigel
Inner circle
Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 3:25am
Without a doubt the worst Twisting routine I ever saw, gaffed or otherwise. The demonstrator even flashed one of the gaffs. They should pay me 15 bucks to compensate for my pain and suffering.
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martyjacobs
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 7:20am
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Yes, I think he would cry. He would be upset that someone had overcomplicated his routine for no apparent advantage! Because fekes are being used, the handling is far too cozy. In comparision, Vernon's original is super clean, angleproof and totally examinable at the end.
I know which one I'd rather perform!
Marty
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Mr. Mystoffelees
Inner circle
I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 10:21am
Very sad.
I need to learn humility - then I will be perfect!
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Preacherman
New user
Montana, where I've facetiously added
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 11:26am
Here's proof that new doesn't always mean improved. These are the kinds of videos that make real magicians look goofy - and I would think that not only is Vernon crying, Houdini is trying to figure out how this guy got hold of his name.
Pretty sad indeed.
JD
"The right hand is, of course, the hand with the thumb to the left side." Fred Kaps
"A little magic now and then never hurts" Grandpa Munster
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 12:58pm
It's not a kid on Youtube. The shop is demoing and selling it.
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Paul
Inner circle
A good lecturer at your service!
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 8:12pm
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On 2012-06-04 11:26, Preacherman wrote:
Here's proof that new doesn't always mean improved. These are the kinds of videos that make real magicians look goofy - and I would think that not only is Vernon crying, Houdini is trying to figure out how this guy got hold of his name.
Pretty sad indeed.
JD
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Not so new, it's actually Nick Trost's from the seventies.
Houdini's Magic is a chain that has been around awhile.
"Mentalism With Cards" will soon be out of print. "The Tree of Knowledge" is out now!
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konjurer
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Posted: Jun 5, 2012 1:17pm
I agree that it is a pretty horrible effect. However...
I know I'm in the minority here but I think the original Twisting the Aces handling is an average trick at best. It's not a bad impromptu trick but it has a lot of weaknesses in my opinion. First, it is confusing for the spectator in that they have to remember which pips are flipping. Second, when mixed with the odd, inconsistent handling of the cards it becomes more confusing. Third, its repetitive without building to a climax. Fourth, TTA lacks a conclusion.
I came up with my own version of the twisting plot using a DB card and I get much better reactions. The cards turn face down instead of face up so I'm not focusing on the specific pips; just the number of the cards turning face down. Its easier for the spectator to follow since they're keeping track of the number of cards flipping and not the pips.
The DB enables the one ahead principle. The movements are consistent, the displays of the cards before the changes are more open, and most importantly, it is very easy to follow. My version has a couple descrepancies but I've never been caught and no one has ever asked to see the cards when complete. So for me, the introduction of a gaff is well worth the preceived improvements. Mine's not perfect by any measure but there's no doubt that it gets better reactions for me that the classic TTA handling. In case you're interested, here's my version of the twisting plot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnFyUTvS8k
Tim
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Preacherman
New user
Montana, where I've facetiously added
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Posted: Jun 5, 2012 1:24pm
I know it isn't new...but it is newer than Vernon. And I understand that Houdini's is a chain that has been around...
The point I was trying to make (rather facetiously, almost sarcastically) is that the handling of this trick is not clean or professional and it represents (or maybe misrepresents) both of these great names in magic.
JD
"The right hand is, of course, the hand with the thumb to the left side." Fred Kaps
"A little magic now and then never hurts" Grandpa Munster
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Tom G
Inner circle
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 12:26am
All the flipping face up and face down, just made it confusing.
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Poof-Daddy
Inner circle
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 2:17am
15+years ago I started my semi-pro magic act with a svengully deck a stripper deck, scotch and soda. and a vhs tape that taught me 1 (yes I said 1) non gimmiced real slight of hand routine -- Twisting The Aces funny part-- I don't even remember how its done
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lynnef
Special user
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 1:48pm
I prefer Vernon's original because it's NOT confusing. Also, there is some necessary patter and timing in Vernon's version ('twisting' the aces is the 'magic') that really make it magic. Lynn
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martyjacobs
Special user
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 7:24am
I agree with lynnef, if you use the original script TTA is NOT confusing. However, you can opt to use an A, 2, 3 and 4 if you think people will find it hard to remember which cards have turned face-up.
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I agree that TTA needs a stronger ending. Allowing your spectator to perform the final twist works. It is also fairly easy to add a kicker ending to the trick if you feel it nessesary (I often move straight into Dr. Daley's Last Trick).
The beauty of Vernon's original is that it only uses 4 cards. When you start adding fekes you lose the purity of the effect (and the trick is no longer impromptu). I really don't think using fekes/extra cards adds much in this case, so why bother?
Marty
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
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Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:34am
In his lectures Wayne Houchin used to do a nice version of Twisting The Aces. It was just his way of doing the displays that made it look so good.
On Michael Ammar's Easy to Master Card Miracles volume 2 he goes from Twisting The Aces into The Last Trick of Dr. Jacob Daley.
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