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Zombie Magic

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 12:39am    Zombie Magic is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Zombie Magic  

I learned it when John released his book "IMPOSSIBILIA".

I have always loved this plot and there are some fantastic versions. From Vernon's original in the Stars Of Magic, to the many versions spawned from that.

For me, I think John Bannon's version is the most entertaining for an audience. They can see the 4 separate packets are riffled shuffled face up and face down. I've had people gasp, applaud and even laugh upon the ribbon spread revelation.

For those that perform it, do you use it as an opener or prefer to use the deck for another trick first? There are different schools of thought as to where it gets the most power.

I think as an opener, it establishes you your credibility. If you can do that, they'll get onboard the train and not doubt anything.
Leo Reynolds Jr

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 8:28am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Leo Reynolds Jr  

I like the idea of doing a regular triumph for the first spectator and then doing Bannon's version for the second.I'd use as a opener.


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Mr. Mystoffelees

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 8:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mr. Mystoffelees  

I always have a deck set up for this. I stack the cards exactly opposite and can use it for either BT or LMCT just in case...

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Robert M

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 3:26pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Robert M  

I always combine Vernon's "Triumph" with "Bannon's Triumph". This is possibly the strongest card routine I do.

I usually close with this if I'm doing an all card routine. I don't think card magic gets any better than this.

Robert
jpleddington

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 4:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jpleddington  

I agree with Robert. I would not use this as an opener.

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sohaib

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of sohaib  

Quote:

On 2012-06-07 15:26, Robert M wrote:
I always combine Vernon's "Triumph" with "Bannon's Triumph". This is possibly the strongest card routine I do.

I usually close with this if I'm doing an all card routine. I don't think card magic gets any better than this.

Robert



Completely agree! Card Magic does not get any better than this. These days I do Slop Shuffle Triumph and sometimes follow that with Bannon's Triumph. Or I'll save the Bannon routine to the end - it is very, very powerful! Maybe the best self-working trick with an ordinary deck of cards .

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:23pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of sohaib  

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On 2012-06-07 08:55, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:
I always have a deck set up for this. I stack the cards exactly opposite and can use it for either BT or LMCT just in case...



Mr. Mystoffelees, what is LMCT?

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BarryFernelius

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:24pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of BarryFernelius  

LMCT = Lazy Man's Card Trick

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sohaib

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of sohaib  

Thanks Barry! An excellent trick, ofcourse
Quentin

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:59pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Quentin  

Triumph fans would be foolish to overlook Dani daOrtiz' version from his Utopia DVD set.

Johnny Thompson's handling on his DVD set is also well worth checking out for Vernon fans.

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BarryFernelius

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 6:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of BarryFernelius  

At the risk of offending some, I'll mention that the shuffling of the four packets with the flipping and flopping didn't fool me for a microsecond the first time that I saw Bannon's Triumph. (Perhaps this is because I'm an engineer who was better than average visualization skills.)

With that said, I've NEVER had any normal person question the face up/face down shuffling sequence. The ending is a surprise, and they never see it coming.

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Justin W.

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 6:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Justin W.  

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For me, I think John Bannon's version is the most entertaining for an audience. They can see the 4 separate packets are riffled shuffled face up and face down.



I think you're mistaking conviction for entertainment.
bouche

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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 5:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of bouche  

Anyone openly remove the suit cards for another trick first (like Diamond Cut Diamond)? If there was a middle trick - like triumph. 'Play it straight' triumph could work like a call back. ( this way the whole thing could be impromptu..)

Would a set like that be too obvious? Would the revelation of the suit cards seem magical or 'obviously' devious card handling?
Mr. Mystoffelees

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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 7:24pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mr. Mystoffelees  

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On 2012-06-07 17:36, sohaib wrote:
Thanks Barry! An excellent trick, ofcourse



Sorry, sohaib, I just got back to this. Yes, and can you see how LMCT is the perfect out in case the spec picks outside your desired range?

Jim

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S2000magician

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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 10:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of S2000magician  

Quote:
On 2012-06-07 18:11, BarryFernelius wrote:
At the risk of offending some, I'll mention that the shuffling of the four packets with the flipping and flopping didn't fool me for a microsecond the first time that I saw Bannon's Triumph.


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