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magicmalk New user Northern California 73 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 14:01, Jamie Ferguson wrote: What about all the other negative reviews. Do they have agendas too? |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 14:25, magicmalk wrote: I gave to agree. It seems like Jamie is one if the few (very few) that had a positive review. Hmmmmmm??
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
Actually, there are many positive reviews on UK forums.
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Martin.Lester Inner circle 1014 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 14:57, Jamie Ferguson wrote: When I started this post I could not find one Positive Review but if you have some positive experience from this year's FISM , Jamie then Let's all hear about it ? |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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JackMagic Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Hold On !
In this Day and Age we are allowed to say what we think of things but Derrick Leaver does not like to hear of anything other than comments from his back slapping mates No wonder some of the Top People in our industry have been banned Paul Daniels / Shawn Farquhar / Richard Kaufman Yes his Rant about Richard was a disgrace I remember the days of Abra magazine after reading a review of the Blackpool convention I wondered if I was at the same convention Back to Jamie's “Positive Review” He said “FISM 2012 felt like the regular Blackpool convention but stretched out over more days.” And with a Price Tag of 4 Times the Cost !!!! Only other Positive came from Cameron Francis a Dealer himself who sells via several Dealers again does not have anything to say other than positive reviews in case he might upset one of his buddies The Gala show was very poor and Clive Webb & Danny Adams who ever booked them needs to be shot! I am sorry but if you consider this a Great Convention then good luck to you I think you need to get out more as plenty of better conventions that are nowhere near Blackpool |
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1609 Posts |
The reviews of FISM 2012 in the September edition of Magic magazine by Darren John and Eoin Smith give a very good overview and, in my opinion, a well-balanced assessment of the event.
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Uncalled for, Jack. I never said anything to "please my magic buddies". I never reviewed the convention. How could I? I didn't attend all the events. From my point of view, FISM was a fun convention. Why you think I'm being disingenuous is a mystery to me.
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
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On 2012-07-21 09:35, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Sadly, this sums the organiser up doesn't it? Why use the programme for anything negative. Surely fism in the uk should help promote the best of uk magic and represented a wonderful opportunity to do so. Anyone with an ounce of proffesionalism would not have conducted themselves in this way. As it happens, many without personal grudges are saying the whole event lacked proffesionalism....dont think the programme did derek any favours and showed him in a negative light in my opinion. Ive never heard of people being banned from other conventions, yet blackpool has a list as long as your arm. I think power has corrupted! |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On 2012-08-29 09:23, Cameron Francis wrote: Cameron, take no notice of Jackmagic. He's a new poster who seems to have joined the forum just to stir up trouble. Like you I had a great time at FISM. I guess that's because we both have a positive outlook on life. Too many people busy themselves by looking for something to complain about. In doing so they miss the fun stuff!
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2012-08-29 05:38, JackMagic wrote: How rude. If you knew anything about Cameron Francis, he happens to be a positive person and one of integrity. You just joined The Café in August. What was the other name you posted under? |
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duanebarry Special user 883 Posts |
DETAILS are what make a review convincing, whether positive or negative.
If you give details along with your assessment, your reader can assess those details too, and see if s/he agrees with your perspective. If your reader is aligned with your analysis, this lends the rest of your account more weight. Vague, general assessments of "fine job" or "terribly organized" don't tell us enough to judge whether we trust a reviewer's assessment. Without details, they're just noise. |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
EXCELLENT point, duane!
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durgy Elite user Toronto 402 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 05:35, JackMagic wrote: Why was Shawn banned from FISM....? Someone please fill me in. And why was there a 'fat suited lady' that... took off her clothes?! cheers Durgy |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
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On 2012-08-29 18:09, durgy wrote: Yes, please- I'd like to know also! |
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billappleton Inner circle Los Gatos, California 1154 Posts |
The always great Magic Magazine had a very detailed review of FISM this year. The easiest to explain problems seemed to be in catering the food and just the facilities and logistics of presenting the acts.
Apparently there was a fat naked lady at one point in the show... I have a stupid question. How does the money work? Does the magic club keep the profit? is there an external organization? Please explain... Follow the money... |
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JackMagic Inner circle 1982 Posts |
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Why was Shawn banned from FISM....? Someone please fill me in. "The Fat Suited Lady" is Leaver's Idea of what he calls Entertainment! Along with the Dreadful MC's for the Gala Show Several People have been banned over the years as he is the Self appointed Judge and Jury No Dealer or Performer is going to say anything bad as they make $30,000 profit (read this months Genii Report for a more objective Review) so they are just Going to keep shut (Sorry by remarks were taken out of content) |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
$30,000 profit! Ha! I wish! I don't know where you are getting that information from but it's not correct. There may be a one or two who do that but not the majority.
And keep shut about what exactly? If guys were making 30 grand, they would be having a great convention so there would be nothing to keep shut about.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
As I've said previously, Jackmagic joined the forum to spout rubbish and wind others up.
I'm always suspicious of posters with overtly bad grammar.
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JackMagic Inner circle 1982 Posts |
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On 2012-08-30 09:24, Cameron Francis wrote: As You have taken my comments out of Context Let me Quote Page 70 from this Month’s Genii “Numerous People have been banned from Attending or Banned from having a Dealer Table including me for Minor Transgressions that most others would never even notice but to Mr Leaver any criticism, no matter how small is met with banish-meant. Performers and Dealers keep their mouths Shut no matter the indignities thrust upon them. When someone can walk away with $15,000 in cash after giving a lecture, or make $30,000 in cash in the Dealer Room, Negative Aspects of their experience suddenly seam……distant.” Looks like Richard Kaufman is spot on with his review |
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