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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
Fair enough if you "can't see any way to dress it up or sell it as a strong effect on its own" but others believe they can, so why characterize their posts as silly.
edit; Ok, I see you've edited your post and replaced 'silly' with 'wide of the mark' so ignore the above. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Cristobel,
At 6:19AM you wrote:"You can perform Memoria one on one with no problem!(I don't see why you can't) At 2:28PM you wrote:"Memoria is not a one on one effect...of course!" I hope you can understand that I am now confused as to your opinion. |
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Woodfield Special user 756 Posts |
Memoria can be performed with Phil Smith's CS deck. The key word can be revealed weaved in at the end of the memory.
Woodfield |
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 15:51, Martin Pulman wrote: Memoria is not a one on one effect but you can perform that way if you want. Is there any contradiction here? Obviously if you do one on one you can't get the whole effect. I've explained before multiples times what I meant but I'll do it again: if the DR doesn't work there is an strong effect anyway. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Memoria is not a one on one effect but you can perform that way if you want. Is there any contradiction here? Obviously if you do one on one you can't get the whole effect.
I've explained before multiples times what I meant but I'll do it again: if the DR doesn't work there is an strong effect anyway. [/quote] Hi cristabel, I hope you'll forgive me if I say that what you are arguing makes no logical sense. My statement that Memoria cannot be performed one-on-one is, logically, not up for debate. It is an analytic proposition like the proposition "all bachelors are unmarried". ie: it is necessarily true on purely logical grounds. The proposition is: a) DR effects cannot, by definition, be performed one on one. b) Memoria is a DR effect. therefore c) Memoria cannot, by definition, be performed one on one. The question of whether it is good, bad or indifferent is, of course, totally up for debate. I look forward to reading others thoughts on that issue. Regards, Martin. |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
I know nothing about this effect but your logic makes sense to me Martin,
who is the second reality for if we perform for one person? us?
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 16:54, Martin Pulman wrote: Of course, I'll explain it although this is very basic. I recommend you to investigate more about DR techniques (there are more than one). I'll give you an example: you can divine a memory, one on one, using a CT; now you can add DR (in the form of pre-s***) and, there we have, a DR effect that also works one on one. |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:29, Cristobal wrote: what do you mean pre-show? who goes to the show? if it is people, then the second reality is for them, other people
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
Just in case I'll expand my explanation saying that it is not always possible to use one on one all DR routines, of course. PK Touches is an obvious example.
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:35, Olympic Adam wrote: I think I don't understand you. Or perhaps I didn't explain well. Same effect perform in two ways: close up one on one, and for stage using pre-s***. What is exactly the question? (By the way, Memoria has nothing to do with pre-s***.) |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Sorry Cristobel, you've lost me. In your example, who is experiencing the 2nd "R" that makes the effect "DR"?
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:17, Olympic Adam wrote: Thanks Adam, I was beginning to think I was losing my mind! |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:42, Cristobal wrote: Usually, a stage performance is for more than one person, therefore not one on one, It appears to me that you mean you can perform ONE of the two effects on it's own, but that's just one effect. For it do be dual reality, surely there has to be a second part, for different people If I understand your meaning correctly, it's true, you can perform the single effects sometimes for one person, but that's not DR. (someone probably thinks this should go downstairs but if lay people can work out what we are talking about, then I think it's too late)
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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Never mind laypeople, after the last few posts I'm not sure I can work out what we are talking about! |
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:51, Olympic Adam wrote: Of course, for one on one there is no DR working, I didn't say otherwise. |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
Quote: and, there we have, a DR effect that also works one on one.
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 17:45, Martin Pulman wrote: Hahaha, really? Well, I'll play along: When you perform the effect for one on one there is no DR working (voilà !), but the effect works great for the only person you are performing. I mean: if you do a CT for only one spectator and divine his memory he's going to freak out, I promise! The same with Memoria. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Cristobel,
Thank you for your advice that I should go and investigate more about DR techniques. I will be sure to do so. We should never stop learning. |
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 18:07, Olympic Adam wrote: Oh, now I see your concern. Well, let's rephrase and say "a DR effect that also works one on one without DR working, because DR only will works with more than one person, but with the same effect for the person you are performing (*)". (*) and the same handling for Memoria in both cases, I'll add. |
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Cristobal Loyal user Malaga (Spain) 288 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 18:15, Martin Pulman wrote: Hehehe, I get the sarcasm, and I know you got mine I'm sure you understand my point perfectly. Best regards, Cristóbal |
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