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jeff boren

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Posted: May 22, 2013 10:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jeff boren  

I have been asked by others to use a couple of scripts/routines I have developed that I think are unique. I come to world of magic from arena where sharing was common. However I have been cautioned to be more protective here. What are the ethics in sharing. vs selling? What is best way to protect creative work and still advance the gospel?
Stephon Johnson

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Posted: May 22, 2013 10:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stephon Johnson  

I share your concern. I have developed a unique pen thru bill routine, soft soap, and others that I feel very protective of but would also like them used by others to properly present the gospel. I'm thinking of maybe publishing them as an e-book in the future to maintain the creative origin of the effects. Maybe you could do that?

What if you woke up tomorrow, with only what you thanked God for today?
jeff boren

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Posted: May 22, 2013 11:27pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jeff boren  

Great idea & great start to this discussion. Thank you!
Mike Maturen

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Posted: May 23, 2013 8:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mike Maturen  

If your routines are original, write them up and copyright them. In the USA, they are copyrighted as they are written...do not need to register with the copyright office. However, doing so offers another layer of protection and "hard proof" if you ever need a lawsuit.

By the way...I am NOT an attorney, nor do I play one on TV. Check with an attorney regarding the current copyright laws.

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Wes Holly

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Posted: May 23, 2013 10:40am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Wes Holly  

"Hi I'm also a Gospel magician. Can I use your routine and can you tell me how to do it?" (I have been asked this by newbies & pros alike) This is a downside of posting on YouTube.

I don't consider myself overly protective of my routines and I don't want to spend the time/energy to track down and stop people who can't see the folly of copying others. I generally tell them to go ahead & try but I don't give them the secrets or nuances unless they send me a monetary gift. I also give them the 'doing as I do won't work for them' speech.

Happily Yours,
Wes Holly
www.wesholly.com
Baltimore, MD, USA
jeff boren

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Posted: May 23, 2013 4:34pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jeff boren  

Thanks mike - but did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Good advice all the way around. And Wes, you are right, I can't write my personality into a script for someone else's performance. You've given me some good insight to make a decision. Thank you and I'd love to hear from more of you about this. Thanks again,
Danny Kazam

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Posted: May 23, 2013 11:23pm    Danny Kazam is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Danny Kazam  

I used to share a lot of my idea's until someone took those idea's and shared them on a website without acknowledging where they got them from, or even thanking me for sharing them. Sometimes I still occasionally share an idea here and there, but I have become cautious where and with whom I share with.
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