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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts 
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On Sep 21, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: Or then just kill all the chinese people, like rockwall suggested. There is no risk for you. Unless your chinese of course. |
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B_man2012 New user Republic of Croatia 100 Posts
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Http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3675568/
Before seeing this film, I didn't even know that there are so many people that 'don't believe' in GW, I just assumed it's a well known fact. Anyway, search results here on the documentaty don't bring up this thread, and I don't want to read 92 pages of text to make sure - Merchants of Doubt; I recommend it, a nice documentary on this subject and some others. Anyone seen it, what do you guys think of it?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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With the massive indoctrination of the warming idea that you been subjected to all of your life it is only natural that you would think there is no doubt about it.
indoctrinate ɪnˈdɒktrɪneɪt/Submit verb gerund or present participle: indoctrinating teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically. "broadcasting was a vehicle for indoctrinating the masses" synonyms: brainwash, propagandize, proselytize, inculcate, re-educate, persuade, convince, condition, discipline, mould and so on.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 22, 2016, B_man2012 wrote: Thank you for the tip. Looks interesting. When googleing information about this documentary I found also this: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/......ubt-film "It’s exactly what we talk about in the film. It’s a product of a playbook which is to go after the messengers and attack and try and change the conversation, and try to intimidate, and it is very effective,” said Robert Kenner, the filmmaker." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Today, as every day, you will be given your daily dose of fear about ‘catastrophic’ global warming among other things. Now close your eyes relax and just think of global warming.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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On Sep 22, 2016, B_man2012 wrote: In the meantime, you also might want to watch this movie. |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 22, 2016, rockwall wrote: Looks very interesting, thanks for the tip: |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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As temperatures plummet, Britain will be colder than St Petersburg this weekend.
The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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On Sep 20, 2016, Gorlzax wrote: I've noticed that despite your entreaties to others to provide solutions that you still have none to offer. But I'm still willing to help you out. Here's another solution: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2......der-says "Want to Slow Climate Change? Stop Having Babies" I'm going to vow to follow this author's advice. How about you? |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Actually if we all commit to not having babies at all we can trash this mud ball!
All kidding aside he does seem to want others to have solutions while offering none of his own. Generally the trend has been that when this happens the solutions wanted by that person are extreme with lots of government control involved.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Solutions to problems that do not exist will never solve anything.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2016, rockwall wrote: Hey rock"lets kill all the chinese people to cut back the CO2 and its a good idea also because they are poor and miserable anyway"wall! You have noticed, have you? Maeby you made this observation from the discussion that we just had where I explained my thoughts. So you do read my posts! Great! And by the way, it still is, like we just talked: I have no NEW solutions. But I know you knew that, so its cool. Well I have understood from your posts that you would take that bloomberg advice even much further by also killing all the chinese babies, if you had the power to decide. For me this question comes too late (not killing the chinese babies which I wouldnt do but the question of having my own). But you are spot on by presenting that problem: the fast growth of human population is problematic. And I do want to thank you. It is no small thing to make that desicion you have made. And like the article you shared says: "There are 19 million adoptable orphans, and there's catastrophic climate change on the horizon. Contributing a child to the world both makes climate change worse and, if we don't get our act together, it might actually not be all that great for the child either." |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: Also for you Dannydoyle. Refer to my earlier posts where I explain my thoughts. No conspiracy here. I'm an open book. If asking you guys, what are your thoughts on the matter, is not cool, well then... Then its not. By the way - which one of these do you consider to be more extreme solution: My thought: "All the things we as humans are trying to do already are good, I think - we just need to do them better and more. And many good ideas are still just ideas, because it is hard to make them reality because there are some people who seem to think that there is no problem and that we shouldnt worry about it or do anything." Or rockwalls: "Here's a suggestion. Let's euthanize all of China. This will immediately decrease the worlds carbon footprint by about a third, just in regards to CO2 output, not to mention all the food available for other people on the earth. I am sure that this will help the earth to feel better and we will find that this will have a positive impact on the climate. It may sound drastic but I doubt you will find a better way to actually cut down on that much CO2 and think of the alternative where everyone on the earth dies instead of just one country of mostly very poor people. I hope you give this serious consideration and realize that this is probably the absolute best we can do as humans to make our planet happy again." Rockwall makes the wish that we take this his suggestion seriously. So what do you think. Is this extreme and would it need a lot of government control? |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 20, 2016, rockwall wrote: Sorry tommy, but as you can see, according to rockwall every skeptic here has stated that they agree that some of GW can be attributed to humans. Well NEARLY every. And so being, nearly everybody here thinks there is a problem of some degree (the degree is still under debate here). And if there is a problem there can be a sollution. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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What is your solution?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: I was just so happy to notice that rockwall does read my posts, but evidently you don't. Oh well, you win some and lose some. 😊 PS: why don't you take rockwall and his suggestion seriously? |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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As a result of your indoctrination your problem is wrongly thinking that all GW is a problem.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2016, Gorlzax wrote: Just because someone thinks that some warming can be attributed to humans does not mean that they also think that there is a problem, (of any degree). (Just a little logic lesson for you.) |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2016, tommy wrote: True, but they do make those wracked by guilt feel a bit better about themselves. |
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Gorlzax New user 39 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2016, rockwall wrote: Thank you for the lesson rockwall. I would like to quote Dannydoyle here: "Who cares if anyone agree 100%? The right thing is the right thing and if progress happens in spite of people then so be it. But by the same token blind adherence to ideology is also bad. So I think if we reframe the debate to just moving forward it is more productive than look at me I am smarter than you." I can sense that you guys are now blindly adherent to the your denier ideology (of if that term insults you, like some of you sometimes say, then lets call it "there is no problem ideology" aka problem-denier-ideology) and that you are trying to prove you are smarter than me. (Which you might very well be, because I'm no genious, so no need to keep proving 😊) I think Dannydoyle puts it so nicely. Who cares if anyone here agrees 100%? Some of you don't believe that GW is happening at all, some of you believe that its happening but that humans have no effect to it, some of you believe that it is happening and humans have effect to it but its not a problem at all, some of you believe it is happening and humans cause it and it is little or big or enourmous problem. To quote Dannydoyle, my favourite home philosopher: "who cares - the right thing is the right thing." After I tried to reframe the debate couple of pages ago I got from rockwall his suggestion: "Here's a suggestion. Let's euthanize all of China. This will immediately decrease the worlds carbon footprint by about a third, just in regards to CO2 output, not to mention all the food available for other people on the earth. I am sure that this will help the earth to feel better and we will find that this will have a positive impact on the climate. It may sound drastic but I doubt you will find a better way to actually cut down on that much CO2 and think of the alternative where everyone on the earth dies instead of just one country of mostly very poor people. I hope you give this serious consideration and realize that this is probably the absolute best we can do as humans to make our planet happy again." I think this is very extreme suggestion, considering that rockwall doesn't even think that there is any problem (Unless he counts himself as one of those wracked by guilt). So wheres the logic in that? (Hey rockwall, I might need another logic lesson from you) 😊 |
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