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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
I am working on new effect and looking who people feel should be in the TOP TEN.
Besides THE 8 BELOW: MAYBRICK TUMBLETY BARNETT KELLY WILLIAMS GULL CHAPMAN BURY If you could add only two more, who would they be and why? |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Sickert would be one...because Patricia Cornwell said so.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I always liked Sickert...until Patricia Cornwell said so.
(My dislike of Patricia Cornwell's writing borders on hysteria.) |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2013-10-01 01:43, stoneunhinged wrote: Yet you just recommended her books in another thread!?!?
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Sometimes hate is a guilty pleasure.
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
I have not read the book though I have found that there are many discrepancies in her book ranging from motive to others. The DNA testing was inconclusive and many feel the majority of letters were hoaxes.
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Well, the point is that Cornwell entered a field in which some sophisticated and highly educated and qualified hobbyists had been pouring over every piece of evidence for years and years, paid a couple of researchers, then announced that she had finally solved the puzzle by her lil' ole self--an insult to everyone who had been interested in the case. The fact that she is an incompetent writer (who knows little of plot or prose)didn't help her case.
But Sickert should definitely be on your list. Don't be afraid to post your question at casebook.org's forums. I posted there many years ago, and (well, at least back then) they were a friendly and helpful bunch. |
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
Start here:
http://www.casebook.org/suspects/
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
At this point, we pretty much have to throw out all the letters, and with them any slim hope of DNA.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
RIP to the victims, regardless of what they did to make a living.
Sad they are never remembered as vividly, just like in most cases dealing with serial killers.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Ask this guy for his opinion and suggestions for suspects:
http://www.jacktheripperwalk.com/index2.html
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
Thanks for your replies.
Just so you know, I have a pretty good knowledge/knowledge of suspects. I am trying to get your thoughts if you feel the 8 would make your top ten and if so, who would you add. So there is no need to refer me to any websites. The tough part is nailing down two more. Yes, Sickert is a good choice and even vincent van gogh was suspected. For example, Would you place PEARCEY higher than my top 8? http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jul/28/humanities.books Above deals with the occult and dr. Robert Donston Stephenson. |
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Sorry, but I misunderstood. Sadly, I am not well-versed enough to offer an opinion on the other.
On a side note, Mr. Rumbelow (in the link) was my daughter's professor of London History and Culture when she studied over there last year.
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
Not a problem. I should have been more clear in my 1st post.
I have spent many an hour researching the suspects and some of the story lines are very interesting especially when you start looking into motives like WHY were prostitutes targeted? Jealously, resurrecting the dead, hatred ( strong mother or caught a STD from a prostitute) or to prove a point or even research fertility or kill 5 witnesses to a royal marriage. Was the RIPPER even a man? Why did the killings stop in the UK? Did the RIPPER go to U$A? Did he give himself up (Bury)? Was he poisoned/executed in London? Why was Kelly's room still locked? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
OK, if we're just thinking about good lists (rather than who really did it), I vote you add the Stephen Knight scenario to your list: in addition to Gull, add Sickert and Prince Albert Victor. There's great story potential there. (In fact, Stephen Knight told a whopping good story, I think.)
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
Thanks for the reply,
the list needs to include people who really could have done it too. If you could name one person as the most likely person, who would it be? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Don't get me wrong: the Knight theory has only been "debunked" in the sense that there was a lack of hard evidence, but it wasn't ever proved to be wrong. So Prince Albert should be on your list. He could have been involved. And I very much liked the whole idea of more than one person actually doing the killings.
My own suspicion is that there are no legitimate suspects, that criminal science was (is!) way too primitive to find a serial killer who lurks in the shadows. We catch them by accident, and seldom on purpose. If I had to name the suspect who I think is an interesting and reasonable guess, I'd pick Francis Tumblety. I found the book to be a bit...ah...Corwell-like (i.e., we've "solved the mystery!"), but I found it very plausible. Still, I think the truth is that Jack was someone the police never suspected, and who it is impossible to find in the 21st century. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Stone, did Patricia Cornwell stand you up at the prom or something?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On 2013-10-02 12:10, LobowolfXXX wrote: Believe it or not, I've read at least seven or eight of her books. Go figure. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
That's probably about how many I got through. I always liked Marino.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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