I'm not sure how Atlas would feel about that since he did do some vetting when he sold it and this would negate that process.

On Jul 30, 2014, shakuni wrote:

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I'm not sure how Atlas would feel about that since he did do some vetting when he sold it and this would negate that process.

I cleared the process, but got too late. The book is already sold out.

I have permission from Atlas to buy the book from anyone who feels that its not for him. You can contact Atlas to confirm.

On Jul 30, 2014, SeattleSteve wrote:
Atlas has added many new TT owners to the forum over the past 24 owners.

So by now, everyone who has a copy of the book should have received a "welcome" email containing your username and password.

Check your "junk mail" and "spam" folders if you don't see it in your "In Box"

You must click on the link in that email to activate your forum account.

We now have 170 Posts in 30 Topics by 130 Members, so the forum is rocking.

On Jul 28, 2014, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
Judging from previous posts, Train Tracking clearly goes over well with mentalists. There are effects which go over well with mentalists but which may not impress a lay audience as much (In the same way aspects of a a virtuoso musical performance may impress a fellow musician but may fly over the head of Joe Public).

I don't own Train Tracking so I ask those who do: How do you think it will go over with a general audience, compared to more traditional offerings in a mentalist's repertoire? Is it suitable as an opener? Closer? For stage? For walkaraound? About how long does it take to perform? Thanks, in advance, for any feedback.

On Jul 30, 2014, Mind Guerrilla wrote:

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On Jul 28, 2014, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
Judging from previous posts, Train Tracking clearly goes over well with mentalists. There are effects which go over well with mentalists but which may not impress a lay audience as much (In the same way aspects of a a virtuoso musical performance may impress a fellow musician but may fly over the head of Joe Public).

I don't own Train Tracking so I ask those who do: How do you think it will go over with a general audience, compared to more traditional offerings in a mentalist's repertoire? Is it suitable as an opener? Closer? For stage? For walkaraound? About how long does it take to perform? Thanks, in advance, for any feedback.

Anybody?

On Jul 27, 2014, Magic.Maddy wrote:
This works best one on one or for a small group. But it can be done on stage as well. As a matter of fact, Atlas SLAYS with it on stage.

With a lay audience, this is a true miracle. And utterly impossible. It's not one of those effects that was made to fool magicians. It was made to give a spectator a feeling of REAL mind reading and I swear it does. Mark Elsdon nailed it on the head when he said this about train tracking: "It feels like he's walking around inside your head." It truly does feel this way. It feels like the mentalist knows your every thought.

I honestly you can't compare this to a book test. It's totally different. The problem with book test in layman eyes is why? "Why do I have to say stop on a 'random' page to think of a 'random' word? Why can't I just think of a random word?" "Why do I have to write it down only for it to get torn up? That's the only logical way he could have known my word." We performers try to come up with good explanations for it, and sometimes we do! But that thought is still in the back of their minds. With TT (weird how TT suddenly went from meaning Thumb Tip to meaning Train Tracking. Bet that will confuse some older ones at some point ) they REALLY think of ANY word they want. There's no books, no lists, no restrictions, and no process behind the selection of the word.


But the TT itself is fun for the participant. And it is all covered by great presentation. The biggest difference is instead of reading one thought, you read their EVERY thought. And it all happened inside their own head.


I personally wouldn't use this as an opener or closer. Although you absolutely could. I think it's biggest value is using it when I meet someone who wants me to read their mind. Or for a potential client. It works great in that sense because you would only have to do TT for them to book a show. Nothing else.

The only problem with TT is that it's going to be an experience tht I don't think could be topped. It's almost TOO strong. TOO real.

However, if using the stage presentation, it isn't as strong simply because the only person tht truly experiences it is the one who actually thinks of everything. Because of that, it could fit in anywhere ito the act and would be an amazing piece for the audience to witness but also wouldn't be SO strong that it couldn't be topped.

Let's pretend that mind reading truly does exist and YOU have just had the opportunity to meet him. Here are two options. Which one would affect you more?

1) You meet the mind reader face to face and he tells you your every thought.
Or
2) You go to the mind readers stage show and he reads every thought of someone on the other side of the room.

Obviously it would be WAY stronger to experience it yourself. That's the same with this. That's why I, personally, don't think I'll use it on stage.



Hope this helps.

On Jul 30, 2014, Robert P. wrote:
Magic.Maddy, thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. I appreciate and value your opinion and your review was one of the reasons I purchased Devin Knight's Penguin lecture.

Train Tracking seems to be really great, I hope I get a chance to experience it some time in the future.

On Jul 30, 2014, Nathan Pain wrote:
Steve,

I haven't received any email yet...I am book 165. Do I need to do something other than wait longer?

Thanks,

Nathan

On Aug 1, 2014, jaizon wrote:
Depends on how customs handles it.