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CardTrix
New user
Springfield, IL
52 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 11:24am
Hey all, I could've split this into 2 posts, but since I am having similar problems with each, I thought I would combine them. I'm learning both of these now, and have a few questions, concerns.
First the shapeshifter... After the move, what's the best way to get out of it? I've seen magicians put the cards back on top and hand out the spectator's card, then start shuffling immediately the reversed card in the deck. To me, even as a laymen, I would think this was a little too obvious. Don't the spectators ever ask about this other card? If the spec asked to see this top card, would a DL be sufficient to convince them?
Onto the Snap Change. I'm learning this from Henry Hay's Magicians Handbook. If I do it without the deck and snapping the cards with the left hand as I see so many other magicians do it, I still flash the card quite a bit. After the snap, my ring and pinky finger is under the card and the middle is on top. Where should I position my other two fingers? Any help would be appreciated.
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Burt Yaroch
Inner circle
Dallas,TX
1097 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 1:00pm
I use the shapeshifter a lot and never shuffle after dropping the bottom card onto the deck (one of the best ways to get rid of it, if not THE best). Nor have I ever been asked to see the top card. "Don't run if you're not being chased."
As for your snap change problem, I suggest you DO use the deck to unload. It's such an angly move that you need to clean up quickly, IMO. Your other two fingers should be at the bottom of the produced card.
Yakworld.
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gilbreath76
Loyal user
274 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 5:04pm
Can someone describe Shapeshifter? I'm suspecting it's the move Blaine seems to always do where he holds the cards over the deck with his left hand, and does a flip with the right middle and thumb fingers and the card changes. Is this it?
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CardTrix
New user
Springfield, IL
52 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 6:35pm
thank you Yak, at least I know I'm on the right track now. I'll keep at it.
gilbreath, you're right in your suspicion. That is the shapeshifter.
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Sean Piper
Regular user
Australia
113 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 7:36pm
I'm not sure why you'd have a reversed card after the Shapeshifter change???
Generally speaking you'd be left holding two cards back to back, in which case it would be qute acceptable to place the double onto the deck and push off the selection.
Let me know if I'm wrong on this.
As for the Snap Change, I imagine you're having problems flashing while the card is in palm. I found that extending your forearm out in front of your body, so that it runs parallel to your chest and the floor, eliminates a couple of nasty angles.
I was doing the change with just the wrist raised, but moving the position of my arm seems to work for me.
See how you go!
Cheers,
Sean Piper.
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gilbreath76
Loyal user
274 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2002 9:45pm
True.. That's why I wasn't sure if we were all thinking of the same sleight.
There should be no reverse cards after shapeshifter
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MagicalChris
New user
Oregon
53 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2002 12:06am
YAY, I really enjoy colorchanges and stuff so this will hopefully help you out, but a few things I say (advice) can be hard to do.
1. On Shapeshifter, I have a pretty heckler-proof version so that if they do happen to ask to see the top card, you can show it no problem. (I hope this isn't exposing, but before on the first flip over to do Shapeshifter, do a DL and then triple to do the Shifter.. now after changing, drop it all on top. Take off the top one to show it as a single card and do not cut. Just go into somthing else and if they ask.. hey, no problem!)
- Now for the snap change.. I don't personally do it much, but I have a few methods for it.
#1 After you do the snap change, go into Tenkai. This is very hard to explain, but it works if you can get it down. After this, just show that card. Switch it into the opposite hand while doing the Greg Wilson move ("All Around Vanish," a pocket kind of move) and show the other one to be there.
#2 Do the change, (hold the deck in your left hand while doing the change in the right) then as soon as you change it, bring the deck towards you and slip the "original" card back onto the top of the deck and finish off clean.
I am very sorry if I exposed too much here, if I did please delete this post or the parts that expose.
-chw
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blurr
Regular user
144 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2002 7:40am
I have found that after doing the snap change I can get the card back into a deep Tenkai type palm and the hand will look otherwise empty. Also when learning the snap change. Start with the 2 cards pointing upward. Then rotate the hand so the cards point downward. Doing the change in the process. If you do this with the hands close to each other, you can ditch the extra card on top of the deck.
Blurr
"Someday men will look back and say I was the start of the 20th century."
---Jack the Ripper
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Andrew Wong
Loyal user
209 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2002 7:44am
What is a shapeshifter?? 
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mysticz
Special user
D.C. metro area
679 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2002 8:30am
Shapeshifter is Marc DeSousa's visible card change sleight.
JZ
Joe Zabel
"Psychic Sorcery"
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
-- Shakespeare's Hamlet I.v. 174-175
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