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The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The June 2002 entrée: Lee Asher » » Tenkai Palm » » TOPIC IS LOCKED Stefan Rupar Regular user 121 Posts Posted: Jun 20, 2002 8:09pm       Hi Lee; thanks for participating! I've been trying to learn the Tenkai Palm and Steranko's lateral palm. My only source of information are your videos (on the Tenkai) and Lennart's (on the Lateral). I'm not getting anywhere, I think because these vids don't do over-the-shoulder point of view. But maybe I'm just stupid. Could you reference the source where you learned the Tenkai palm? Thanks. BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3182 Posts Posted: Jun 20, 2002 9:26pm       Yes, I second that. Lee please share a good source for the Tenkai. I love the 4 Ace revelation in 5 Card Stud, but am not having any luck with it, since I can't get the Tenkai right. BroDavid If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. Lee Asher V.I.P. 418 Posts Posted: Jun 20, 2002 9:54pm       I am not sure exactly where the first place the Tenkai palm sees print? I know he wrote a few manuscripts and he has a student that wrote some things for him. The student’s name is Takeshi Nemoto and he wrote a manuscript called ‘Tokyo Trickery’. I don’t know if Mr. Nemoto discusses the palm but it’s worth getting a hold of. Ask me specifically what you need to know and I will try and help you. As for the Steranko Lateral Palm, that can be found in Steranko on Cards. I don’t play with that move too much so my knowledge on it isn’t as sharp… Lee Are you interested in joining an exclusive magic mailing list? Click the link below for more information. http://www.leeasher.com/why_join.html MichelAsselin Veteran user 20th century, 3rd dimension 325 Posts Posted: Jun 21, 2002 8:04am       If I may... The two books on Ross Bertram are a good source on the Tenkai palm, although it illustrates mostly single (seemingly) card changes rather than routines. There were some great effects in Hierophant, but much was of the sit-down variety. Kaufman's Cardmagic is a source of off-beat routines, notably a ring and card sequence which is more stage manip than close-up (It has the feel of Flip Hellema's material). Hope this helps... " , ? ; !!! " - Marcel Marceau, Feb 30, 1945. Kaliix Special user Connecticut 627 Posts Posted: Jun 21, 2002 8:51am       Two videos that teach the Tenkai Palm are Sankeytized II and On the Spot by Greg Wilson in his 3/4 across trick. To succeed, you must have tremendous perseverance, tremendous will. “I will drink the ocean”, says the persevering soul; “at my will mountains will crumble up”. Have that sort of energy, that sort of will; work hard, and you will reach the goal. ~ Swami Vivekananda Greenshock Regular user Vancouver, Canada 149 Posts Posted: Jun 21, 2002 1:23pm       Hey Kaliix, I think you're confusing the Tenkai palm and the Tenkai pinch. I love the Tenkai pinch, but I find the Tenkai palm too angly for most of the performing situations I'm in. Any tips for this problem, Mr. Asher? Lee Asher V.I.P. 418 Posts Posted: Jun 21, 2002 10:03pm       Yeah those two are easily mistaken….. As for tips on the Tenkai…..I have a few for you. Tip #1 - Practice Tenkai palming while driving Tip #2 - Practice Tenkai palming while talking on the phone Tip #3 - Practice Tenkai palming while watching TV I know that sounds generic but that’s it!! If you practice while doing those three things, within the week you will begin to feel comfortable Tenkai palming the cards. Once you are comfortable with the palm, it should feel less cumbersome and you should gain some flexibility in the way it looks in your hand. Essentially, it looks natural and there is no sign of you holding a card in some whack position! Where to hold the card in your palm is a very important detail. Make sure the tip of the upper right corner of the card is planted in the middle of the pad of the Thumb. The upper left side of the card should be planted somewhere on the palm. That is preference, wherever it feels comfortable but is still hidden from sight. Click below to check out some photos of a card in Tenkai palm. I show it from two different views. Note that this is the way I hold the card in Tenkai. It will vary with everybody because of hand size and comfort factor. http://www.leeasher.com/pages/magiccafetenkaipics.htm Always remember to keep the Tenkai’d packet parallel with the floor. Look at the shadowing on the card. If you can see some light which makes one side of the card brighter then the other, your card isn’t sitting perfectly horizontal and it most likely isn’t parallel to the floor. If you can see light on the card, so can your audience. It means you are flashing. Tip #4 - Keep the Tenkai’d card in the shadows Hope those tips help you out with this great palm….Let me know what you think. Lee Ps. If you click on the picture links, I give you Tip# 5……..if you are interested. Pps. Later on I will talk about using the palm while performing. Are you interested in joining an exclusive magic mailing list? Click the link below for more information. http://www.leeasher.com/why_join.html Andrew Wong Loyal user 209 Posts Posted: Jun 22, 2002 2:00am       Thanks, Mr. Asher!!! Your tips are very useful!!! Lee Asher V.I.P. 418 Posts Posted: Jun 23, 2002 6:24pm       Glad to help... Lee Are you interested in joining an exclusive magic mailing list? Click the link below for more information. http://www.leeasher.com/why_join.html Lee Asher V.I.P. 418 Posts Posted: Jun 24, 2002 1:19am       If you are interested in Tip #6 on the Tenkai Palm.... Click the link below to be taken to it. http://leeasher.com/pages/magiccafetenkaipics2.htm Have fun.... Lee Are you interested in joining an exclusive magic mailing list? Click the link below for more information. http://www.leeasher.com/why_join.html dr.magic New user 1 Post Posted: Jun 24, 2002 11:02pm       Lee, This Tenkai palm thread was worth every minute of signing up for The Cafe. Everything has been great. I own everything you have put out and can honestly say I am starving for the next project you put out!! Keep in touch please. dr.magic BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3182 Posts Posted: Jun 25, 2002 10:57am       Just want to say that I have now practiced and performed the Tenkai palm - thanks to all the great advice from Lee - and that last tip #6 was really great too as it addresses the issue of "worrying about flashing". It gives a finite baseline and that is great! I am working on it with both hands, and with four cards palmed, I then reach out and pull the four cards into a small fan right from thin air (the tenkai) with one hand, then turn slightly and pull four more into a small fan from the other hand. Even my wife was impressed! And that takes some doing! Thanks again Lee. I will get that The Thunderbird down now that I am more comfortable with the tenkai. BroDavid If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. Lee Asher V.I.P. 418 Posts Posted: Jun 25, 2002 9:55pm       Nice....keep it coming! Lee Are you interested in joining an exclusive magic mailing list? Click the link below for more information. http://www.leeasher.com/why_join.html Victor Brisbin Elite user Washington, DC 427 Posts Posted: Jun 26, 2002 2:30am       If you master the Tenkai Palm (as opposed to the Tenkai Pinch), find a copy of Rick Johnsson's "Practical Impossiblities." Mr. Asher's tips on the Tenkai, combined with Mr. Johnsson's applications will make you the master of your own Tenkai domain. "It is better to practice a little than talk a lot." - Muso Kokushi The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The June 2002 entrée: Lee Asher » » Tenkai Palm » » TOPIC IS LOCKED <<< Previous Topic   Next Topic >>>

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