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I have been asked to perform a show for a children's camp and to include something about God's attribute of being invisible (even though He's really with us (at all times)). What illusion or illustration might demonstrate this well?

Feel free to mention principles and I'll figure out patter and presentation. If a specific trick comes to mind, just PM me to avoid exposure.

Thanks.
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Also open to scripture suggestions...
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, none will suffice." -Joseph Dunninger



"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it."Hebrews 13:2
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Your questions prompted me to write something. So, here is my contribution:
http://www.jamiedoyle.com/wp-content/upl......-God.pdf
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Jamie, this is ABSOLUTELY beautiful! Thank you.

God Bless,

Matt
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I see that this lesson is tied into 'God's invisibility'. Maybe a future lesson could be on the many forms of God and a gold coin, small silk or even a Bible verse scroll could pop out of everywhere and everything. A child's ear, an man's wallet, a grandma's picture of her grandchildren.
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I wouldn't focus on the invisibility of God, I'm not sure if that is even scriptural. Rather, I would talk about how though we don't directly see Him, at least yet, we can see the results of His presence. Yet, I don't have an effect to suggest for that.

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Colossians 1:5
Speaks of the invisibilty of God.
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When talking about the Holy Spirit I talk about invisibility. Then produce a 50' and 30' streamer from "Invisible Paint". (similar to a square circle that I show "empty") I explain we can't see the Holy Spirit yet it fills the room. As the streamer comes out I hand it on to the children to take "for a walk" around the room. Normally the 80' is enough to get the sense of God being everywhere, even though we can't see Him.
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Quote:
On Jul 2, 2015, jamiedoyle wrote:
Colossians 1:5
Speaks of the invisibilty of God.


Not in my translation:
"because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel" Col 1:5 NAS
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Perhaps try 1:15


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Ah ha! A typ-o on my part... my apologies. Colossians 1:15
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Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
1Tim 1:17

How could I have forgotten that passage, and the hymn based upon it? (it rings in my mind when I read it!)

Yet my concerns persists.



So let me rephrase my concern by asking two simple questions:


1) List out 5-10 characteristics of God that come to your mind as being the most important attributes of God.
Or put another way, if you were to teach someone about God, which characteristics would you teach?


2) Now, in the context of a magic show, list out what comes to your mind when someone says "invisible".


Were there any overlaps between the two list?

For what its worth, one commentary said that the "invisible" characteristic of God is likely stating that God is spirit in nature.

To me, it seems like any *magic* effect that deals with *invisibility* can trivialize God.

My concerns are echoed by what Laflin said in Greater Gospel Magic: "Please don't say about a coin or another object,

"This is Jesus." .. Treat your visual aids as visual aids. Treat the truth with respect." p85

or

"The blood of Christ represents the awesome love of God, the hideous nature of sin, and the holy victory that is available
for those who will believe. To take such a profound subject and only make passing reference to it, while making a silk
handkerchief disappear in one's hand, is more than foolishness; it is a cheap and profane act" p81


So that is my thought, I hope you ponder it.
John
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Unfortunately, "invisiblity" today means a Klingon cloaking device or using gmakeup.

Focusing on "not perceived" or "we are blind to God's hand" seems to work better.

Many magic effects can illustrate "not visible" or "non-visible" or "not perceived" and avoid "invisible"

I seem to recall that "invisible" is not an accurate/complete translation anyway.
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