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KenRyan Elite user 465 Posts |
Can I get a sanity check/confirmation on the purpose of crossing the gaze? My understanding is that it's basically looking at the audience while doing something with your hands, the purpose of which is to get the audience to look at your face instead of where the "thing" is happening.
Is this correct? Or am I missing something about this concept? Thanks! Ken |
plink Special user 661 Posts |
I would say you're missing the main point. Juan Tamariz Of course), Pocket Power from library.com, Michael Close's Frog Prince from Workers 2 and Cloutier's Bill in Kiwi DVD are some places you might want to check for uses of this powerful technique.
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shg_123 New user Coffey, MO 71 Posts |
Psssht I can never get crossing the gaze to work. If an audience wants to burn your hands they WILL burn them, sadly...
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KenRyan Elite user 465 Posts |
Thanks Plink. I noted your suggestions and I already had Pocket Power. Reviewing that now.
Cheers! Ken |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
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On Jan 2, 2016, shg_123 wrote: I find this both strange and sad. Some immediate thoughts ... "A single perverse person, but an entire audience?" "If that is the energy of the audience why are you performing?" "If anyone is 'burning' your hands you can't be doing it right." "Are you doing tricks to fool, or an effect to create astonishment?" The key to any sleight is "never happened." Crossing the Gaze is a technique to support inference that can work in some cases, but not all. To attempt to force its use into a particular effect may be the problem. IF you don't have audience attention you can't shift it anywhere. The question is not "did they follow you eyes, but were they looking at your eyes?" .... Not trying to judgmental here -- just to help. Kinda in shock at this early hour.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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shg_123 New user Coffey, MO 71 Posts |
I should correct my statement. Yes, I completely agree with you funsway, however, it cannot be something that you rely on when doing an effect. I meant that if there is a spectator (usually in groups) who is absolutely set on watching your hands they will.
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shg_123 New user Coffey, MO 71 Posts |
I also meant to say that if I can't get it to work I use some other form of misdirection, I just don't blatantly do the move.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
That makes more sense. I do think that is more a problem today than "back when" -- except for my brothers and sisters of course.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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KarstenMeyerhoff New user Germany 92 Posts |
You may want to have a look at the body of work of Tom Stone here: wargmagic.com
The ebooks Scribbles 2009 and Stonebound 2011 have some very interesting thoughts about misdirection in them - crossing the gaze among the techniques discussed. For 12/14 Dollars a steal, if you ask me .. |
KenRyan Elite user 465 Posts |
Thanks! I will definitely check out those ebooks.
Cheers! Ken |
Invisticone Regular user 132 Posts |
Tom Stone's Penguin Live Lecture is one of the best of the many I've seen, and talks about crossing the gaze.
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danaruns Special user The City of Angels 808 Posts |
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On Jan 3, 2016, shg_123 wrote: I must be a real fool, because no matter how much I swear I'm going to burn someone's hands, a good magician can get me to look at exactly the wrong place, no matter my intention. And I even know this stuff. I think a lay audience would have no chance. I always remember Johnny "Ace" Palmer, who looks at the audience and tells a joke, then says out loud, "I know that's a bad joke, but it covers a pass," and he completely gets away with it every time. Misdirection of whatever sort can be powerful beyond measure in the right hands.
"Dana Douglas is the greatest magician alive. Plus, I'm drunk." -- Foster Brooks
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3086 Posts |
Glad you revived this thread danaruns. It doesn't matter if your hands are being watched during
this sleight. It's a natural move looking for something in your pockets. That's what you do when you are looking for something on your person. No suspicion should arise at all. Unless you are doing the move poorly/awkwardly.
Guilt will betray you before technique betrays you!
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