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Mindpro
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The last time I heard non magician's use the term parlour in the states was in The Munsters!
Ray Pierce
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On May 19, 2016, Mindpro wrote:
The last time I heard non magician's use the term parlour in the states was in The Munsters!


lol... Wasn't that a great show?? Yeah, I just use it as it's possibly my favorite room to work at the Castle. It's such a specific size I love. When I was working on the Caesars Magical Empire project, they had a wonderful room they wanted to use for close up but it was too big and too far away for close up so they tried to remedy it by putting TV screens in the air to iMag the table which was a stupid idea! The screens were small so even if you watched the screens it was actually a smaller image than watching it live, not to mention the disconnect of a performer having to compete with his own hands on a screen. I took out the table and made it into a stand up room which was amazing. It was quite possibly my favorite room in the world to work due to the layout and intimacy.
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The cruise ship market is not one thing, it is many things. This means there is a place for many different types and styles of magic act from grand Illusion to cabaret to manipulation and anything else you can think of.

Some cruise lines require four or more shorter spots, others just one main spot of 45-60 mins, others two, or one and a half spots and others have scheduled slots for acts to do just one short spot that might be as little as 6 mins.

Some cruise lines have specific demographics and policies regarding what can and can't be presented on their stages. Obviously the Cruise Lines want artistes that fit in with these policies and cater to their demographics' proclivities.

So what rips the theatre apart on one ship might well die a death, or even result in an act being disembarked, on another.

Even within a cruise line, different ships or simply just different itineraries might result in some acts being suitable and others much less so.

Some ships have theatres that seat well over a 1000 with multiple balconies. Others have show lounges which seat well under 100. And there's everything in-between.

So asking, as the OP did, if a particular set list is good for cruise ships is a non- question.... and it's the wrong question to ask about trying to get into the cruise market.

The question to ask is one you can answer yourself. The difficulty most acts have is answering it honestly. That question is; "Is my act really fantastically good?" If you have a really great act then there's a reasonable chance that they'll be a place, for whatever it is you do, on the ships.

However, be warned... even having a great act that works brilliantly well on land doesn't automatically mean it will translate to a cruise ship audience.

If you want to work as much as possible in the Cruise environment there are some obvious advantages in having an act that delivers the goods across as many audience types as possible. It increases where you can work.

But don't let this fool you.... some of the most successful acts I know that work ships (and just ships) can only work for English speaking audiences, or only work for British audiences, or only North American audiences. This just reinforces the point that there is room for all types of acts, you just have to be exceptionally good... but...there's a but....you also have to be a fit for the cruise industry market.

The former you can establish before you broach working on ships for the first time, the latter you will only find out once you are on board. So be prepared to work out how, why and in what way ship audiences can be different from land audiences and that way, if you feel it's for you, and you have the ability, you can maybe adjust your performance accordingly.

So, other than saying avoid using fire, (no ships are keen on that) just get as good as you can be doing what you are good at using whatever set list shows you at your best... and that's your best way into the cruise market.

(Written from my cruise ship stateroom on Holland America Line's Zuiderdam in the port of Stavanger in Norway)
Neal Austin

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Brent McLeod
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On May 11, 2016, Donald Dunphy wrote:
As a part of your research into that market, you probably should check out this information.

http://magicianbusiness.com/cruise-ship-magician/

http://magicianbusiness.com/cruise-ship-......-becker/

Fred Becker's Cruise Ship Course: http://gigsonships.com/

- Donald


Best advice I ever got from Fred Becker before even trying the cruise ships, Yes I was a professional working the corporate markets,Yes I had a 45 min act plus a different 30 min act and a 15 min spot if required, but I needed a professional video promo clip that is just for the cruise ships,showing you as a cruise ship act only, don't use your local clips from a bar or scout show or outdoor show...,then its up to you as to how it will go..the advice from many posts above worth noting...cheers
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Hi all, been a semi pro comedy magician many years, working now as a pianoman on cruise ships but am very keen to start working as a fly on ships comedy magician. Pianoplayers need to be away for months and Ive done 3 years so its time to hone into my first loves, magic and comedy. Anyone doing it now, or can offer up any resources for learning routines for stage that work well on a ship at sea. regards Alan D Books.
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Do you have any history of doing comedy magic anywhere?
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Needle swallowing: no (kids in the audience)
Chop cup: no. Unless you can make it work for 1,700 people
Do you have a ship agent?
Have you ever been on a cruise?
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