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Jimmy Lee
Special user
Singapore
679 Posts
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Posted: Jun 30, 2002 7:00pm
Hi, anyone of you out there using the floating table?
a) There are a few versions out there, any recommendations as to which one is a better buy or value for $?
b) Is it a practical prop? How many of you out there actually use it for your performance? Any reflections to share?
c) I am also aware that the routine for the table is rather limited at the moment. Kevin James is currently working on a routine to be marketed with the table he is selling over at the KJ website. Anyone of you would like to share your routine?
Hope to hear some views, reflections and comments. 
Magically Yours,
Jimmy...
a guy from a tropical island in South East Asia
..oops...where did he disappeared to????
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Thoughtreader
Inner circle
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
1565 Posts
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Posted: Jun 30, 2002 9:48pm
I use a simple Abbott's floating table and it works great. I highly recommend it for you to try it, play with it before you try to move to a table with more features (but that I find useless for my needs anyway).
PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat
Canada's Leading Mentalist
http://www.mindguy.com
AB StageCraft
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Jimmy Lee
Special user
Singapore
679 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2002 5:58pm
Hi Paul,
Perhaps you can share more on what are some of the pros and cons of the table?
You mentioned that "I find it useless for my needs anyway", why? Care to elaborate a bit more?
Anyone out there have any other views on the floating table? Your routine?
Magically Yours,
Jimmy...
a guy from a tropical island in South East Asia
..oops...where did he disappeared to????
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Kjellstrom
Inner circle
Sweden
4132 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2002 6:31pm
Hi, the Floating Table I use is made in Sweden by my magic friend Stefan Schützer. He lives pretty close to my area. He invented the TUFC, The Self Folding Bill and more...
Price 1200 dollar.
Why this Table is expensive?
I think it depends on several factors; every Table is handmade, it takes many hours to make the beautiful finish.
The Table are very delicate in handling, lot of perfectionism in it. One big factor is that in Sweden the taxes are very high, if you are selling products, then you have to pay lot of taxes.
In Sweden the price is about 1200 dollar.
Even the material is pretty expensive.
Plus, Stefan also want to sell it only to serious magicians.
The best thing with this Table is that you can pull the cloth after the floating to show that nothing is attached.
You can show the Table clean!
Plus the mostly magical thing about the Table;
after the normal floating, put BOTH your hands on the Table Top and let it float. Press the Table down to the floor...looks very magical.
I can tell you if you do this effect with great music and perfect handling, this looks like real magic.
The audience loves it.
Some comments after my shows;
"Your table must have some helium inside!"
"That was amazing, but how could you balance the table on your feet?"
"Even though I sat only a few meters from you I couldn't see any wire!?!?"
"How much? I really want to knew the secret" Hahaa...
This effect has made my show much more magical.
I did the Zombie ball many years ago, but that effect was never a hit.
Floating Tables are not a new concept, but the new concepts today uses almost the same method.
Stefan Schützer´s Floating Table was on the market first. I think his version is the original and probably the best. But, I can be wrong. Stefan´s version has some unique features that the other Tables don't have, that's the big difference. This illusion is one of my favourites.
Easy to carry around and perform.
TOP MAGICIANS THAT HAVE
STEFAN SCHÜTZER´s FLOATING TABLE:
Jeff MCBride, U.S.A., Luis de Matos, Portugal, Pendragon, U.S.A., Juliana Chen, Canada, Juan Tamiraz, Spanien, Hans Klok, Holland, John Houdi, Sweden plus myself plus many more of course...
WebLink:
http://www.magispecialisten.com
By the way, see my new Ebook here:
http://www.kjellstrom.nu/Jump-O-Ring.htm
http://www.matskjellstrom.se
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Jimmy Lee
Special user
Singapore
679 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2002 6:32pm
Thanks for your comments. Saw your post over at KJ's board.
Magically Yours,
Jimmy...
a guy from a tropical island in South East Asia
..oops...where did he disappeared to????
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Garrett Nelson
Special user
644 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2002 4:51pm
Not that this should be a deterent, but be warned that it was on a Masked Magician special (sadly). So it might serve anyone to watch that show to see how to work around what people assume is going on.
Just a thought.
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Andy Leviss
Inner circle
NYC
1178 Posts
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Posted: Jul 3, 2002 5:33pm
I just got back from Phoenix Gathering, where Jay Scott Berry stopped by Kevin James's booth in the dealers' room to demo Losander's Floating Table (which Kevin sells, and Jay uses in his show). It was absolutely stunningly beautiful. WOW! You can check it out at Kevin's site: http://www.kjmagic.com
I don't get anything from it, but Kevin's a friend, so if you do order from him, tell him I sent ya!
Note: I have PMs turned off; if you want to reach me, please e-mail Andy.MagicCafe@DucksEcho.com!
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Jimmy Lee
Special user
Singapore
679 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2002 7:11pm
Thanks Andy.
I will do more research on this before getting this. I have to see it for myself! 
Magically Yours,
Jimmy...
a guy from a tropical island in South East Asia
..oops...where did he disappeared to????
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brainman
Special user
696 Posts
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Posted: Jul 5, 2002 8:02am
I know the Losander table...for MY purposes too weak built and too small.
I built my own one, bigger and now looks and serves like a TABLE..
my PERSONAL opinion
BUT: I own Losanders floating ball and this one is really fine!
P
www.gedankenlesemaschine.com
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Count Zapik
Regular user
UK
180 Posts
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Posted: Sep 1, 2002 2:03pm
'The Evasons' do the best floating table I have ever seen.
Where did they get that technology from?
I feel as if I have been whisked here from another life....it may even have been my own!
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Magic Monkichi
Veteran user
Ontario, Canada
388 Posts
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Posted: Oct 13, 2002 10:42pm
The Evason's table is an Owen's Magic piece. Not only is it a beautiful prop, but Jeff and Tessa are amazing performers as well. That is what makes the illusion so spectacular.
Magically yours,
Matt Kielbiski
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Thoughtreader
Inner circle
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
1565 Posts
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Posted: Oct 14, 2002 4:25pm
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On 2002-07-01 17:58, Jimmy Lee wrote:
Hi Paul,
Perhaps you can share more on what are some of the pros and cons of the table?
You mentioned that "I find it useless for my needs anyway", why? Care to elaborate a bit more?
Anyone out there have any other views on the floating table? Your routine?
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Jimmy,
I apologize for not seeing your question previously, however, the Abbott's table is simple, no moving parts, and it breaks down for packing. I use it as a side table all the time BUT have it set in case I am really stuck for a second encore. I just do not use it much for "floating" anymore due to the new structure of my show. I really only use it when I am going to be touching on "seances" on stage. I usually just perform table tipping with 12 - 16 people on stage, with a few tables scattered around.
The Abbott's table is the least costly of the available "made" tables for sale and as such is worthwhile to play with to see if you want a much more costly table. The method itself is simple and direct, although one really needs to spend a small amount of extra money to have a better gimmick made that one can wear at all times. It is also a great side table, which for the money is about what you would pay for one anyway, yet you get the extra effect with it.
As for the Lossander table, I just saw Derrin Romeo use it for some close-up and then do a floating table routine while he sang. Went over very well and looked great, too.
PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat
http://www.stores.ebay.ca/abstagecraft
Canada's Leading Mentalist
http://www.mindguy.com
AB StageCraft
http://www.mindguy.com/store
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Jimmy Lee
Special user
Singapore
679 Posts
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Posted: Oct 15, 2002 11:29pm
Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions and comments.
I have already got myself the floating table.
Now I need a good routine to go with it!
Any suggestions? 
Magically Yours,
Jimmy...
a guy from a tropical island in South East Asia
..oops...where did he disappeared to????
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psychic
Veteran user
337 Posts
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Posted: Oct 16, 2002 12:16am
Jimmy, is it worth it? Enya background music is not too bad. How have you been doing.
So, you're Jimmy. Guess who I am.
Hint : guys from thin air with a mentalist attitude
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BenSchwartz
Special user
Southern California
502 Posts
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Posted: Oct 16, 2002 9:26pm
I like Losander's a lot... I just saw... I believe he was using this version... Bruce Gold did it the other night in his act... great routine.
"The experience of astonishment is the experience of a clear, primal state of mind that they associate with a child's state of mind." ---- Paul Harris
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billy charisma
New user
20 Posts
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Posted: Jan 30, 2008 1:03pm
I was given a broken table which I fixed with new balsa, it looks quite ornate turned and heavy, I thought it was a losander but it would have a name on it apparently, but it hasnt, it didn't have the foulard or lifting gimmick either, I have been experimenting with strong wire, and even a curved perspex handle, which lifts the thing but I cant hold the cloth like the videos!! anyone prepaired to help me get this thing off the ground?? I would appreciate any help at all, even a small point in the right direction, also handling tips would be a great help
billy.charisma@ntlworld.com
hello everybody,,
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The Drake
Inner circle
2270 Posts
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Posted: Jan 30, 2008 4:02pm
Billy,
If you're not getting a lot of support for your problem its because if your table is not a Losander then its a knockoff and you shouldn't be using it. You mentioned it might be a real losander. Post a photo of it and we'll let you know. Or visit losanders site and see if you see your table there.
All handling tips are explained cleary in Losanders DVD. Its part of what you get when you purchase one.
Best,
Tim
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cameroncando
Regular user
135 Posts
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Posted: Jan 31, 2008 4:11pm
Losander is the only way to go. one of my top 10 all time faves
Cam
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illusionbuilder
New user
Germany / I now live in LV Nevada
32 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2008 6:39pm
Yep, losander ofers the best floating table. Anyone bought the new metal floating table yet ?
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g0thike
Special user
722 Posts
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Posted: Feb 21, 2008 3:03am
Billy,
You posted to a 6 year old post.
The effect of a table floating has been around forever.
The zombie gimmick has also been around forever.
The Losander gimmick is public domain since Tommy Wonder put it in print.
But the design of Losander's table, the look is his.
G0THIKE
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en2oh
Loyal user
217 Posts
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Posted: Dec 21, 2008 10:33pm
Tommy Wonder put the Losander/Wonder Gimmick into print?
I know that Tommy Wonder's zombie modification was published in his books of wonder but I didn't think that the Gimmick that Losander uses in his tables is "Public Domain" or even published for that matter.
Has it been published somewhere? Even if it has, the commercial rights would still reside with Losander or Tommy Wonders' Estate.
Doug
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JasonBaney
New user
88 Posts
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Posted: Dec 21, 2008 11:46pm
It's not public domain. Losander has the rights to it in writing from Tommy Wonder.
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Doruk Ülgen
Elite user
423 Posts
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Posted: Dec 24, 2008 9:05pm
Buy losanders,you'll get great reactions if you perform correctly...
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hocuspocusjay23
Regular user
167 Posts
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Posted: Dec 28, 2008 12:39pm
I agree, it seems as Losanders table is the best on the market. Remember you pay for what you get.
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Laszlo Csizmadi
Special user
From Hell
870 Posts
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Posted: Jan 4, 2009 4:15am
Why so much cheaper the Excalibur Table in a magic store than on the Losander site?
http://www.losander.com/Excalibur_Table.html
http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=LB6411
Best,
Las
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Dennis Loomis
1943 - 2013
2115 Posts
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Posted: Jan 6, 2009 11:17am
Okay, guys, this thread is very confusing because you are discussing two different things and trying to compare different effects. The Abbott's table and the Losander table are as different as an Aga Levitation and a Super X. (Or a suspension and a levitation.)
I can't get into methods, but let me say this: In the Old Days tables were said to "tip." That's because of a particular move in the routine where the table is rocked on the floor up onto the two front legs or two side legs, etc. While this is done one of the magician's hands or both of his hands are on the top of the table. Later the table leaves the floor, but the effect is ambiguous since the magician's hand is still in contact with the top of the table. The audience can possibly see two different effects: The first is magical magnetic attraction, which, simply put, means the table adheres to the magicians hand. Or, the audience may believe that the table is levitating and the magician's hand is keeping it from flying away. Most intelligent people see the first effect. Tables like this have been around for 100+ years and today can be purchased from Abbott's, Owen's, or Wellington. (And probably others.)Harry Anderson used to use the Owen table of this type, and Tim Wright uses (and designed) the Wellington version. The late Jack Gwynne was a master of this effect.
The Losander table is completely different in both method and effect. The table does not "adhere" to the performer's hand. Instead, the table has a short drape and the performer holds one of the bottom corners of the drape in each hand and the table is seen to float up into the air, moving left and right as well. There is no apparent contact with the table. It's a far more convincing and startling illusion when done well.
The Losander/Tommy Wonder style of table has to be very light and that means the prop is quite delicate, and easily broken. That's the price you pay to do this beautiful effect. Losander makes the table to break down and provides a good looking and sturdy case to hold it. This makes it more practical to transport. Still when it's set up backstage it's quite vulnerable. Beware that someone doesn't try to put something very heavy onto it or sit on it.
So, if you are going to contribute to this thread, try to distinguish between the types of props you are discussing. Otherwise we are discussing apples and oranges.
Dennis Loomis
Itinerant Montebank
http://www.loomismagic.com
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IDOTRIX
Elite user
Woodridge, Illinois
447 Posts
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Posted: Jan 7, 2009 9:44pm
Good call Dennis
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ting
New user
36 Posts
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Posted: Jan 18, 2009 10:07am
Yeah Las, that's what I gonna ask too.
Anyone knows why?
Anson
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deliveryboy
Regular user
101 Posts
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Posted: Jan 26, 2009 4:16pm
Might be a loss leader.
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Vaughn Ver Steegt
New user
Janesville, Iowa
56 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2009 11:46pm
Save up your money for the Losander table. It's worth the investment. Customer service is great and Mr Losander will take good care of you. He has different models that will fit the needs of most magicians. Invest the money and invest the time to develop a great routine and you will have a table that will be used in your shows.
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