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pelicantrapper Regular user VA 193 Posts |
On the video Will says they will ship out before 2017 implying orders will ship out in the next few days. But the page text "you watch is going out before mid January" suggests that they will ship out after 2017?
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Sashac Inner circle 1041 Posts |
Bought it. I had to.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
I got part way through the checkout and then got hit with $140 dollars for shipping!!!
There is no way it costs this much to insure and ship to the UK by UPS or similar. I was also concerned about only having a 3 month guarantee, what comes with 3 most of warranty these days, don't they think their product will last a year, if you want a year you have to pay an extra $100! If they want nearly $500 for the watch why not just say so, I may just have ordered it right away, but virtually doubling the price during checkout is not on.
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Will Tsai Loyal user 209 Posts |
Thanks for all the love folks. It's been a crazy day. Will answer a few questions tomorrow when I have some down time.
Saturn UK, yes I agree with you. That is the exact reason we never stepped into retail model before from Canada. The price is quoted directly from UPS system here. The same package going your way and coming back to us will have quite a bit of price difference. But we decided to stick with UPS as it's the most reliable carrier here with signature, tracking, and $1000 insurance. Of course we could just sell the item for $500 and do free shipping; as the matter of fact from the cost and quality of the watch we were going to retail the watch for $1000. However we believe in the power of sharing resources and we want all the magicians to use it. We decided to go full retail and transfer the price difference to the customer end. So everyone could make their purchase at wholesale price and we'll let the product speak for itself. Customers are paying the carrier for the cost of item to deliver to their own location. Some are more costly, at the same time some are cheaper depending on how close they are located from our carrier. To protect customers' investments over valuable product, it makes sense to use secure and reliable carrier service. Just my two cents. Once again thank you for liking my work and considering to support the campaign. -Will |
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
You will find websites that offer UPS and DHL at large discounts I'm sure you must use them like we do, or if you ship enough you will be getting huge discounts off the normal shipping rates.
What about the warranty why only offer 3 months is the watch not durable, that was the main thing stopping me pushing the button.
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Will Tsai Loyal user 209 Posts |
We don't have resources like that in Canada. At least I never heard of private service like that. If you can hook us up, that'd be awesome!
3 month is a standard electronic coverage for manufacture defects. If after 12 weeks of use, it's already proven the electronic parts are working reliably. Any point beyond that, it doesn't cover daily usage damage. If you bump the watch, water damage, bad user habit.. etc. Those are not covered. Additional warranty is available for instant replacement. That means at anytime during the warranty duration your watch is not working (not water damage or crash), the $300 watch will be replaced with a brand new one. The same service is offered in laptop and mobile business model as an option. It could come in handy. I've had the chance to replace my phone in the past with similar warranty. Again not everyone needs it but it's nice to have an option and a peace of mind. Hope this answers your question. -will |
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
Must be different in Canada mobiles have 12 months in the U.K as do all electrical I am aware of.
One website is called Parcel Monkey. It works Canada to UK, they are showing $25 shipping by DHL but that does not include insurance, which is $10 for up to $500.
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Will Tsai Loyal user 209 Posts |
We don't do DHL at all. We've lost so many parcels through them in the past we can't even count. That's why we do UPS only for this item. But thanks for the info.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
Never had a thing go missing with DHL and that price is insured.
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Oh well ... I can't take the temptation , I'm getting this at 140 shipping .
Will , what's the extra free part that's included in the early bird package ? And does the " we'll put in free stuff equivilant to the amount you ordered at " offer still count ?
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morpheis91 Regular user Philadelphia 155 Posts |
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On Dec 25, 2016, MR Effecto wrote: It looks better to me. It shoots the smoke so it doesn't look like it comes from the wrist but rather the hands, it also tells the time!!! I almost bought the Smart Smoke watch but I think I'm gonna go with the Gold Watch
Wilberto Casillas
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Chris Jones Elite user 468 Posts |
I don't trust them as far as I could throw them and I'm the world expert on smoke devices.
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JackMagic Inner circle 1982 Posts |
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On Dec 28, 2016, Saturn UK wrote: I must agree with mark on this one DHL is much more reliable And with UPS most of the time I have had to go down to my local post office to collect the item Then get stuck with GBP 20 handling fee that's on top of the VAT and custom charge this on top of the VAT and the overtop shipping charge from sansminds I think I pass ! |
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Paul Romhany V.I.P. Canada 800 Posts |
Just wanted to chime in here. I was lucky enough to see the watch over 6 months ago - maybe more. What I saw blew my mind. I have been following the watch closely because I have tried it myself and seriously think it's the best magic product I have ever seen.
The detail on the mechanics are what really took my breath away. They literally created the technology from ground up and it is revolutionary not just in the magic world but also the science world. I remember telling Willie at the time to forget developing this for magicians and get this to the medical industry where he would make some serious money. The technology is really THAT advanced. The blower they had made for this watch I believe is the smallest in the world and has uses way beyond magic. This is where Willie and his team have really set new standards for magic prop designers. I am going to write the story on this product up in VANISH MAGIC MAGAZINE because it's a truly remarkable story of how much time, money and creative thought went in to bringing this to magicians. I can imagine these should eventually go up in price because at the time I first saw the watch I suggested it retail for $1500 - so the price right now is amazing!!! You can't compare this to any other smoke watch on the market because the technology is WAY beyond what is already out there. This has been in development for many years and the smoke production itself is so much better. The method is DIFFERENT. The main issue with other watches is that they use an old oil system - this does NOT. You won't stain your clothes or get an odd smell. You can do this again and again without refilling. It's far more practical for the working magician. You also get way more smoke and the smoke itself is more visual (stronger). Another feature, and for me one of the most important is that the smoke really looks as though it comes from the hand and not the watch. This is in part because of the new technology they created but also where and how you can adjust where the smoke comes from. It doesn't matter the size of your wrist because they have thought this through and it can be adjusted for any size wrist. It's like comparing apples with oranges. This far outdoes any smoking watch gimmick on the market - I know because I have one other and putting them side by side you can see the VAPR watch is far superior in all aspects. If you are lucky enough to get one then it is something you will use and at this price I think it's one of the better deals I've seen. Congratulations to the team behind this and to Willie Tsai - you have started a revolution and long may it continue ...
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HoDinhYu New user 66 Posts |
This is gotta be the best magic product I have seen. What sold me is the smoke doesn't look like it comes from the wrist but inside of the hands. Beside smoke I am surprised the watch with this quality is only so cheap!
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
So do you have one yet?
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
Just seen the full demo. Looks crazy cool. Hope its as good as it looks.
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
So to confirm, and if I understand correctly, the device can only be activated with the remote, right?
And will refills for the regular VAPR device work with the watch? |
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GAMJoker Loyal user Bad language skills confirmed in 224 Posts |
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On Dec 28, 2016, Saturn UK wrote: Totally agree to that. We in Germany have even 24 months on electrical products. Mobiles, Laptops, etc. (The fans of my Asus Laptop got very loud after ~20 months and even tho I said it's because of daily use, they replaced them for free...) I don't think that anyone has to do this at all... Noone should offer free repair for daily wear, but at least for technical issues, 12 months in my opinion is a minimum for companies who believe in their product quality. If the quality of a product is as good as they promise, they will easy go through 12 months without having issues. |
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AaronishMagic Special user 635 Posts |
I was away for vacation and can't believe I missed the blind campaign! Are there people actually got it for $170? That's insane!
PendletonThe3rd I use vapr on a daily basis. From the size of it I don't think the cartridge could go into a watch. |
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