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Taylor Haws
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On Sep 4, 2018, Thomas Gilroy wrote:

I don't think he's actually riffling the corners together at all before he sets the step. That would eliminate the need for to undo the weave, and I think it's a totally valid handling.


I'm pretty sure that he is accualy riffling them together, but just barely.
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I recently met a retired professional poker player. Had a chance to do some effects for him. He didn't catch any false shuffles, etc. Admittedly, this was a series of 1 so means little. But I was curious what his knowledge level would be. On the flip side his understanding of the math involved in poker was way over my head.

I have a theory that if there is money involved then someone is trying to cheat. Seems like a good rule of thumb.

I was quite taken by a recent lecture by Mr. England (At the Table Live Lecture series)in which he mentioned that once you are familiar with the Zarrow then it will no longer fool you. I think that's really the crux of the "Undetectible Zarrow." You can only make it undetectable to someone who is unaware of the technique.
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Rnaviaux: "You can only make it undetectable to someone who is unaware of the technique".

You present an excellent point.
Perhaps the reason this shuffle is so obvious to some, is because they know the method.
Selective attention, the "Invisible Gorilla" is an example of this.

I am really would like to have poker game (with no money involved) and use "magician's technique" to put this theory to test and see what if it would get detected.
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On Sep 5, 2018, Jerry wrote:
Rnaviaux: "You can only make it undetectable to someone who is unaware of the technique".

You present an excellent point.
Perhaps the reason this shuffle is so obvious to some, is because they know the method.
Selective attention, the "Invisible Gorilla" is an example of this.

I am really would like to have poker game (with no money involved) and use "magician's technique" to put this theory to test and see what if it would get detected.



I only wish I had come up with that point on my own:) I remember working diligently on my zarrow so my magic buddies would say they couldn't see it. But they always did. Never occurred to me it just might not be possible to make it invisible.
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