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Does anyone know of any methods for producing a whiskey sized glass with liquid in it? I would like to be able to produce Kainoa's Victorian Glass with some liquid in it. Seated or standing makes little difference, as my performances are usually a combination of the two. It would need to be something for close up and or parlor environments.
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Here is time honored method sold by Abbott's Magic.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Rubber-Covers......oryId=-1

Other methods include, old time sink stoppers, rubber balls, and tire inner tube round patches with attached tab.
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Check out thrift stores. They usually have a good assortment of glasses at reasonable prices! Years ago, I opened the club date act with a production of a snifter of brandy to give to someone in the front row. (I used a lot of brandy snifters in those days!) --but, at least one guy in the audience liked me!

I just used a "No Sag" Devil Napkin. A brandy snifter is never FILLED, so it didn't need a cover. I don't know what sort of glass that KAINOA uses, so, a snifter may not be appropriate.
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Here is time honored method sold by Abbott's Magic.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Rubber-Covers......oryId=-1

Other methods include, old time sink stoppers, rubber balls, and tire inner tube round patches with attached tab.


Would Abbot's body clip or ball clip work for holding it do you think? Their clips were the first thing to come mind for me, but I will admit I have never used one.
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Check out thrift stores. They usually have a good assortment of glasses at reasonable prices! Years ago, I opened the club date act with a production of a snifter of brandy to give to someone in the front row. (I used a lot of brandy snifters in those days!) --but, at least one guy in the audience liked me!

I just used a "No Sag" Devil Napkin. A brandy snifter is never FILLED, so it didn't need a cover. I don't know what sort of glass that KAINOA uses, so, a snifter may not be appropriate.


A devil's hank was something I had considered, did not know about a no sag version. Would a standard devil's hank fit the glass or snifter? I looked for a large/giant devil's hank but most places no longer carry them :/
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Here is time honored method sold by Abbott's Magic.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Rubber-Covers......oryId=-1

Other methods include, old time sink stoppers, rubber balls, and tire inner tube round patches with attached tab.


Would Abbot's body clip or ball clip work for holding it do you think? Their clips were the first thing to come mind for me, but I will admit I have never used one.


Try using a "banker's clip. --available in any good office supply store. "b.c.'s" will hold almost any small glass. I don't know what the prop glass you are using "looks like".
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Check out thrift stores. They usually have a good assortment of glasses at reasonable prices! Years ago, I opened the club date act with a production of a snifter of brandy to give to someone in the front row. (I used a lot of brandy snifters in those days!) --but, at least one guy in the audience liked me!

I just used a "No Sag" Devil Napkin. A brandy snifter is never FILLED, so it didn't need a cover. I don't know what sort of glass that KAINOA uses, so, a snifter may not be appropriate.


A devil's hank was something I had considered, did not know about a no sag version. Would a standard devil's hank fit the glass or snifter? I looked for a large/giant devil's hank but most places no longer carry them :/


A "standard" DH (the "old original style") would have a BULGE at the "bottom", and, be very awkward to
get the glass "out"

I don't remember who first "invented" the "no-sag" DH. I bought one from the late Jack CHANIN, about 1959!
Jack made them up using cloth baby diapers!

When I was using the brandy production regularly, I had a half dozen made up in various colors to look like
cloth napkins. I didn't want them to look like a magician's prop!!! --No gold fringe, no sequins, etc!!!!!

I started using the routine in my lecture, so I had my bag lady make up a SUPPLY, for sale. Over the years,
I sold a whole bunch at $20. I think I have a couple left in my storage facility. I think they are a "powder
blue" and about 20" square. They easily held a small snifter (about 4" across x 4" high. For kid parties, I
found some globular "fish bowls" about the same size.

PM me if you have questions. I can rip a page out of an old set of lecture notes, to give you the handling, etc.!
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Check out thrift stores. They usually have a good assortment of glasses at reasonable prices! Years ago, I opened the club date act with a production of a snifter of brandy to give to someone in the front row. (I used a lot of brandy snifters in those days!) --but, at least one guy in the audience liked me!

I just used a "No Sag" Devil Napkin. A brandy snifter is never FILLED, so it didn't need a cover. I don't know what sort of glass that KAINOA uses, so, a snifter may not be appropriate.


A devil's hank was something I had considered, did not know about a no sag version. Would a standard devil's hank fit the glass or snifter? I looked for a large/giant devil's hank but most places no longer carry them :/


A "standard" DH (the "old original style") would have a BULGE at the "bottom", and, be very awkward to
get the glass "out"

I don't remember who first "invented" the "no-sag" DH. I bought one from the late Jack CHANIN, about 1959!
Jack made them up using cloth baby diapers!

When I was using the brandy production regularly, I had a half dozen made up in various colors to look like
cloth napkins. I didn't want them to look like a magician's prop!!! --No gold fringe, no sequins, etc!!!!!

I started using the routine in my lecture, so I had my bag lady make up a SUPPLY, for sale. Over the years,
I sold a whole bunch at $20. I think I have a couple left in my storage facility. I think they are a "powder
blue" and about 20" square. They easily held a small snifter (about 4" across x 4" high. For kid parties, I
found some globular "fish bowls" about the same size.

PM me if you have questions. I can rip a page out of an old set of lecture notes, to give you the handling, etc.!


Much obliged sir! As for a clip, I think I can work something out. Appreciate the advice/help Smile
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Do to the shape of he glass, I don't know what would work as a holder.

You can call Stevens magic and ask the diameter of their Liquid Stop device, to see if it fits your glass opening. It can be used for any glass up to the diameter of the gimmick.

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/liquid-stop-voit/
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Plastic cling wrap (Saran wrap) is another good method of containing liquid in a straight cylinder glass. They used to advertise it on TV, covering a glass of liquid and then turning the glass upside down to show how well it worked. I said to myself, "Aha!" It's not 100% perfect, so be prepared for some minor leaks or spillage by using a "busy" pattern of handkerchief that camouflages wet spots.
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Don't know the glass you are trying to use. Old Sam Berland used to just hit the hardware stores and buy rubber drain stoppers to fit his glass openings. The stopper was moistened and simply wedged into the glass mouth. It works a dream and the plus is that they can be threaded a la' a pendulum pull to deliever or vanish a glass of fluid. The tops of Pringle can will snap over a larger glass and work as a nice top.

Tupperware used to make tumblers of all differnt sizes each with a sealable lid. Finding one of the older vintage lids to fit the specific glass might be possible and a fun search.

Interesting thread this! It has reminded me of some old ideas and old production ideas from back in the day.
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Almost forgot to mention the other benefit of using plastic cling wrap: if you put a rubber band over the cling wrap, you can push it down into the glass to make a pocket, which is good for holding a fountain of silks or other load. You flip over the covering handkerchief and produce the load first, then roll up the rubber band and cling wrap cover to hide under the silks or whatever and you reveal the glass of (in my case and at my age I used) milk. The cover and rubber band gets tossed aside with the silks or flowers.
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Guys, here is ad on penguin Magic.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S19969

I checked several websites and it looks like they locked the picture or removed the picture of the glass. Don't want anyone searching the Internet by picture, I guess.

It is not really a shot glass, more of a Bourbon glass stuck on top of a Whiskey glass bottom.

I think the best bet is the Liquid Stop by Volt from Stevens Magic.

If you can find a ball large enough, the Abbott's Squash gimmick would work very well, then you could vanish the glass at the end as well, having produced it at the beginning.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Squas......oryId=-1

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Instant-Instr......oryId=-1

You could even use the Pendulum Principle in the Tommy Wonder books. That would depend if you could find a suction cup that would work with our glass.

Of course John Cornelius was the 1st place I heard of this gimmick. It could also work with Squash.

All the above means you would have to wear a jacket.
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From the way it's talked about, the "pendulum" principle is what we called a "swing load", when I was beginning.
Yes, a swing load could be used as a production (The late Russ Charles used the swing load to produce a dove
from a newspaper. He did it thousands of times when on school tours.)

I still like the Devil Napkin.
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I have heard Richard Osterlind has a glass production of some kind, but do not it's size and if it is close to a bourbon sized glass. Interesting thread so far, I really like all the ideas being thrown back and forth.
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Osterlind, Glass Production that he showed on the video tape lecture by Jeff Busby years ago, was, he opened a grocery size brown paper bag fully, then reached inside and remove a tall glass of lemonade, the method was not explained, but sold in a separate book, of which, I never bought. He was standing behind a card table with a full suit on at the time of the production. I have no idea as to his method or how it was accomplished.

Call Steven's Magic, the gimmicks are on limited supply. I owned one of the 1st ones and do your design with the base an the bellowing upper part, it should work for you as the gimmick is make to produce a wind glass of that type of glass. You can always return it if it does not work for you shot glass.

Many questions have been posed in regards to the glass and you have not enlightened us to the nature of the glass. In the video, the glass looks much different then the ad picture. If it is more straight sided, angled wall on the outside down to the base, then any of the other methods will work.

I'm done guessing now, thanks for the question.
By the way, it is a shot glass, looks like a double shot glass to me. You may have to make your own special designed gimmick with holder.
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I have this which might be what you are looking for. I am also making a shorter "rocks glass" version.

http://scottalexander.bigcartel.com/product/big-shot
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I have this which might be what you are looking for. I am also making a shorter "rocks glass" version.

http://scottalexander.bigcartel.com/product/big-shot


Hey Scott, funny you should reply to this chain. I actually emailed you asking if big shot would work with other glasses and you were kind enough to test it out on a rocks glass/whiskey glass, you even sent a picture. I was just coming onto the Café to say that actually and mention the great customer service. Thanks again! This will fit in perfectly in my act! Smile
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I have this which might be what you are looking for. I am also making a shorter "rocks glass" version.

http://scottalexander.bigcartel.com/product/big-shot


quick tangent. I have to say, all your stuff is top notch. If I ever do an invisible deck routine, yours is the one I do. Okay, back to the topic at hand haha!
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Thanks so much....You inspired me to look into other glasses and I have found a wonderful wine glass that I can now work with too!

I have a routine I do based on Faucett Ross' handling of the Challenge Bowl Production using two Big Shot glasses. It involves the premise of sneaking drinks into a movie theatre. I produce one from a foulard, and then have the "usher" search me and then produce the second one.
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That sounds hilarious! Although now I am picturing what it would actually be like, to do that at movie theater for real haha. Before you take your seat, you just turn around to your friends and produce it. I can neither confirm nor deny that that sounds tempting LOL.
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There is a different method I developed when I was 15. Performing for an audience of senior dignitaries in my town I was prepared. One man coughed several times.
I happened to be starting a Linking Rings, but could have happened any time. I announced, "I think that gentleman needs a bit of wine."

I placed the rings over my left arm and produced a stem glass of wine at my fingertips. My assistant (younger sister) came up with a tray on which I placed the glass.
She took it down to the man who sipped it and toasted the crowd.

This could have been a highball glass or Pilsner beer glass. No foulard, no risk of spill or fumbling with a cover -- magic, right?

No -- just realize that the glass carried and produced does not have to be the same one handled to a spectator -- a Utility Switch.

Many ways to accomplish this according to conditions. In my presentation the glass held stiff Jello rather than wine. Looks the same and even sloshes a bit, but no cover.
This was in my left pocket with the base up. With the rings in my right hand a grabbed the based with the curled fingers of left hand and base against palm.
When I turned to my right and held out my left arm the glass was behind my wrist/arm with finger point at the rings.
I then placed the rings over my left arm and make a sweeping motion with my right hand. By rotating my left hand the galls 'appeared' on my open fist balanced by my thumb.

My assistant had a duplicate glass by her left side as she approached with the tray, waving it to the crowd. As she walked past, not stopping, I 'handed her the glass'.
Actually, she just raised her glass to meet my empty right hand as I flipped my glass back into hidden position. With the glass on the tray and carefully balanced as she descended the steps
I was able to claim the rings in my right hand and replace the glass in my pocket.

....

for your routine the real glass of whiskey could just by on a table behind some prop. Produce the fake one by any convenient method - even a plastic half-glass on a TT.
Then, find an excuse to set it down and make the switch. Seated at a table I might have the real glass in lap with a cover removed just before the production.
Then the fake is produced dramatically and handed to the spectator with right hand -- making a Utility Switch in the process and umping the fake.

The point is -- producing a glass of liquid is difficult -- so, don't. Smile
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