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skyfire
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OMG, Bill you seriously came back with the same misunderstanding of the same question??? LMAO!

Especially for you Bill, all others can stop reading here.


Just in short:
YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND, why I did not buy another Proline, as has been exhaustively discussed, are they not out of business?

YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND, when you said, "it’s like driving a Ford vs Chevy they are different". You’re getting it, without even knowing it, that’s exactly what I was talking about. I needed a Ford that was tough, and Owens was selling a Chevy saying it was tough. My routine because of the Patter needed that vehicle, not because I thought that vehicle was better or great, but just because of the way that vehicle performed. That’s it, period. (For people who thinks Chevy’s are tougher, just reverse my analogy)

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, when you said, "I never stood on stage, and hit rings together". Of course not Bill, you were not doing routines with Patter that coincides with those actions. But yet I explained to you a number of times above that that very action does coincide with my routine and Patter. In fact in a few instances, the sounds are the words, and spectators hear and understand what words go in that place. You have to understand that, it’s very crucial with you seeing the light on this question. Think about that.

Lastly, ironically with everything you did not seem to pick up comprehensively, you did answer the question. You say that Owens Rings do sound like a “Dead Clunk”, which is saying that Owens Marketing is completely false, and misrepresenting. Thank You. I’ll chalk that answer up to that side of the standings.

But I do not feel like arguing a point so meaningless with today’s youth, so whatever point you were trying to make, you are completely right, I am wrong, you win, and it’s over. Let’s not disrespect this forum any more than we (I said “We”) already have, and I apologize to anyone who had to read through these embarrassing postings, and explanations. I value this Forum way too much to keep this going.

Bill if you have anything further with me, I do accept PM’s and will gladly read whatever you have to say without further wasting other people’s time. Thank You…
Bill Hegbli
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I totally understand, you feel buyer's remorse, and think Owen Magic should refund your money or make you a set to your satisfaction. Totally understandable that you believe a statement from the 1940's should still old true today, and/or be rewritten.

Yes, I was totally surprised by my friends demonstration of the hollow rings. I did not want to kill his excitement, so at least I will not consider buying a set any further.

I do believe the 'statement' refers to the sold rings Owen's made.

Who's disrupting, you are talking about comparisons of two different manufactures Linking Rings. I believe this was posted because of your feelings, and those feelings brought you to post this topic.

If you don't post any further, neither will I, but if you respond, so will I.
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Sidney A. Salmans
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I realize that this post was a long time ago, but thought I would put in my two cents worth. I understand that Skyfire wants a set of rings that ring, and he has incorporated that ringing into his routine. I have a set of 12 inch Owens that I bought back in the late 70's or early 80's. They ring well enough for me, but they are much like that in your demonstration video. I would agree that Owens overcharges for their stuff. I paid about $425 for a set of eight back then. I love them myself. As far as metals, I have searched information about stainless steel, and aluminum. There are many, many ways to mix the metals, and they are not all the same. As far as the Proline goes, I have this to say. My friend bout a set of them, and on the first day, he dropped one solid ring on a wood floor (not cement), and it broke at the weld. I would rather have the stainless steel.
blackstone99
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The Owen stainless rings are the best IMO. Their welds are invisible and the rings sound musically when they collide.

Paul
carloskronopio
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I have just received a nice 8 ring set from Proline. They are thick, shiny, very light to handle with confidence. And they sound good. A beautiful, professional set of rings.
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On Aug 16, 2017, carloskronopio wrote:
I have just received a nice 8 ring set from Proline. They are thick, shiny, very light to handle with confidence. And they sound good. A beautiful, professional set of rings.


Good to hear. How long did it take to receive your order?
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I love my Proline 13" Solid Aluminum "Silver Bells" Linking Rings. I originally ordered them in October 2016 and I received them in April 2017. I got a nine ring set with two cloth bags. Eight standard ring set and the ninth ring is a magnetic locking ring. Works like a dream. Sounds like a musical instrument and is light as a feather. Cliff had some problems with his welder and his seamstress along with other personal problems which caused the delays. I have to admit I was worried about getting them but now that I possess them there is no way I'm giving them up. They are works of art. Perfect in every way. I absolutely love them. Check out the sound tests YouTube. There is no comparison to the Owen's rings. Owens rings are heavy and clangy. While Proline rings are like true musical silver bells. No comparison.
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algebraic
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I see some people are FINALLY receiving their order from Proline. I received yet another update from Proline stating I'd have my order by July 1st at the latest. I guess I should have asked, "In what year?"

I still haven't received my paid in full item from Prolies, I mean Proline.

What the heck is this guy doing with all his spare time? He's certainly not making products.
Leo H
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The Proline website looks like it's gone and the domain name is up for grabs. Too bad, I need a chain of 2 Proline rings and a single.
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Here is the proline magic website. It is still there

http://www.proline-magic.net/products

You can also contact Cliff Wiggs on his Facebook Proline page

https://www.facebook.com/Proline-Magic

Or you can try his personal Facebook page

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1509333488
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funnyclown
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Sorry for Facebook proline page it should be


https://m.facebook.com/Proline-Magic-100507506776920/
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Doc Svengali
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Here is Cliff Wiggs' email address for Proline:

cewiggs@msn.com

He does respond to emails in a timely manner.
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You will get your products from him but it will take many months and lots of emails for status BUT when you get your rings you will absolutely be thrilled. They are seriously the best rings on the market IMO. Perfect bell sounds, super light yet sturdy.
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Leo H
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Hey Doc & Funnyclown! Thanks for your help!
algebraic
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I was promised my order would be completed by July 1st at the latest. I still haven't received my order which I paid in full for coming up on TWO YEARS AGO.

The only service I received from Proline is email service on supposedly when I will receive my product.

Do yourselves a favor, order from a reputable dealer. Proline isn't one of them.
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