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innercirclewannabe Inner circle Ireland 1597 Posts |
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On May 8, 2017, nervebreaker wrote: All of the above comes with not a thread of proof, other than hearsay and a belief system. For this to become really credible, Bob, I believe it is important to address the real issues on this thread. i.e. - If speaking to the dead was possible, why is it that the dead only ever seem to speak in vague and general terms. Never seem to identify themselves by name, and never seem to be able to help with concrete information that helps with missing children or unsolved murders. I can't think of a better gift to give the person/people left behind in these cases. I know I am repeating an earlier point I made, but I believe it is worth repeating before we enter into jargon like "spiritual development". Please don't take this post in any manner other than the one it is intended, and that is to try and get a better understanding as to why you believe that none of this seems possible? Is this not a paradox? Robert.
Tá sé ach cleas má dhéanann tú sé cuma mhaith ar cheann.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On May 7, 2017, nervebreaker wrote: Where did you get that information .."Ghost 101" ????? Sometimes the assumptions of pseudo skeptics makes me laugh ... Where does it say Spirits don't have time as a limitation ... Houdini sure did!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On May 8, 2017, reignofsound wrote: It was a scam..
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
So I'll post this as two messages for reasons I will explain - First I'm going to post a link of a reading my wife did for me talking about my past lives, purpose, twin flame and then at the end I comment about though it was very interesting and strong information and I trusted it, there wasn't anything in it I would consider falls into the "evidential mediumship category".
My next post will relate some items she remembered as being in the evidential category, or certainly some would consider it so. Here's the link - it's just me and her talking. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfy20bg449exap......WAV?dl=0 |
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
OK some items that I feel would be evidential - but not hard number evidential.
1. A grandmother spirit came through and said to tell the sitter specifically "Clean the Corners". my wife obliged and immediately the sitter burst into tears and knew it was her grandmother. 2. My wife saw this image of a girl dancing with a large size doll and the dolls feet were on top of the girls feet. She described it to the sitter and she said - "Yes I used to do that. It reminded me of when I had my feet on top of my fathers and we would dance together. After he died I did that with the doll because it reminded me of that time with her father.". 3. Another time a Grandfather figure came through as two of his grandchildren were around. My wife described him as in a Brown suit with Gold filament in it. Neither of them remembered any pictures of him like that but one of them eventually asked their father about it. The father said, that was the suit he was buried in. Neither of the Grandchildren had that knowledge. So there is what we could remember of the top of her head. |
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
Slim King: about not have "time" as a dimension in the spirit world - well there are books that do mention it but our source was from the spirit world - I figured they would know ;-)
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pacozaa Loyal user 273 Posts |
Is there any language barrier between your wife and spirit?
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
No language barrier just trying to find words to describe the visions or feelings she is conveyed by them.
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pacozaa Loyal user 273 Posts |
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On May 8, 2017, nervebreaker wrote: What about culture and distance barrier? I think people with different culture can have different vision and interpretation. Did she had some vision that can not understand? |
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
She hasn't had any distance issues but cultural can be an issue if she can't get an actual message and gas to interpret as she can't alter her cultural bias. She may realize that and mention that she gets a feeling that it is a cultural thing. I don't have strong feelings on the cultural statements, I may be trying to interpret too much here.
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Alan Wheeler Inner circle Posting since 2002 with 2038 Posts |
Like naturalists, I believe these experiences can sometimes be explained scientifically--sleep paralysis, the power of suggestion, hallucination, chemistry...
Like existentialists, I believe we sometimes re-inforce and create our own self-made folklore, that we should honestly assess all evidence and ideas. Like super-naturalists, I believe there is more than the material realm. For some it will just be accessed through conscience (morality, human rights), reason (philosophy, theology), and nature (like the romantic poets). As far as communicating with spirits, I cannot imagine someone at any level not saying, "Be careful!" Whether at a natural level or beyond, who knows what you are tapping into? How do you know the spirits (or whatever) are honest, benevolent, and controllable?
The views and comments expressed on this post may be mere speculation and are not necessarily the opinions, values, or beliefs of Alan Wheeler.
A BLENDED PATH Christian Reflections on Tarot Word Crimes Technology and Faith........Bad Religion |
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
Early on we did hook up with a spirit guide that was a bad entity. They did help us in some matters perhaps to gain our trust but revealed their true nature later. They were dark and we didn't have a good feel on if that was meaningful but it usually is. We ask if they are of the light now and if we don't trust the answer we can talk to our other well established spirit guides for "references". They aren't controllable except if you mean , can you get rid of them? We have been able to get rid of any we didn't want around with aid of the angels and archangels. They are ready to help us in many ways but people really don't seem to ask them that much.
But yes you absolutely need to be careful and aware and preferably have someone to help you early on. This is one reason ouija boards can be harmful. Bad spirits can take advantage of a lay person with their information and the lay person may think if they get something it has to be good info. It's an attractive opening for spirits to come through. |
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kinesis Inner circle Scotland, surrounded by 2708 Posts |
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On May 11, 2017, nervebreaker wrote: WOW, much as I really try to stay open-minded this last post (above) is simply (in the literal sense) unbelievable. I'm gonna have to sit on the side-lines and spectate for a while. |
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
Kinesis: Totally understand - even when other people in the spiritual community say some things I can have trouble fully accepting it. I suppose I could hold back and not tell it exactly how we are experiencing it but I've gone this far, it's easier for me to be straightforward rather trying to remember what line I drew on talking about things previously. It does on some days feel like being on Mr Toads Wild Ride in Disneyland but it is what it is for us. My wife and I are very fortunate that we are both trying to be accepting as our tiny brains can be of what they are sharing, and they have told us they appreciate that as they know it's not easy for us physical beings to be as accepting of the information as we are.
One other interesting tidbit that came about when I asked about DNA - they said all DNA strands for everything are the same except for what parts are activated. the part that we are aware of is just a small part of the whole strand and some of the parts of the DNA are only accessible by Creator. I was asking because I wanted to know if I reincarnated would their be a DNA trail that would be detectable - they said only if I was born into the same family in subsequent life , so basically no for other circumstances. Anyway I got my questioned answered and much more of a door of information opened at same time. That may be an extreme example but there are other moments like that in our dialogues - it is mindblowing - repeatedly! |
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Alan Wheeler Inner circle Posting since 2002 with 2038 Posts |
I may need to go sit on the bench for a bit as well.
But let's please be careful about your sources of knowledge. If you want diagnostic information about a disease, go to a trained medical doctor. If you want a critique of your artwork, go to artists and audiences in that field. If you want legal advice, go to a professional lawyer. And so on. Test everything!
The views and comments expressed on this post may be mere speculation and are not necessarily the opinions, values, or beliefs of Alan Wheeler.
A BLENDED PATH Christian Reflections on Tarot Word Crimes Technology and Faith........Bad Religion |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
A true medium goes into a trance state...
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
"A true medium goes into a trance state" - well I have seen some that do that, but I don't believe it's in the bylaws as a requirement.
Sorry couldn't resist. |
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innercirclewannabe Inner circle Ireland 1597 Posts |
What was once an interesting thread has turned into 'selective replies' and replies tantamount to gobbledygook. Nothing new here in the way thst I've heard many 'medium's try to explain their 'gifts'. Anyway, move over, I'm gonna sit on that bench too.
Tá sé ach cleas má dhéanann tú sé cuma mhaith ar cheann.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On May 12, 2017, nervebreaker wrote: How else is the connection made?
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nervebreaker New user 53 Posts |
So the recording I posted was a channeling session rather than a mediumship session which I didn't realize at the time but not all mediums can channel. My wife is allowing my spirit twin to talk and answer questions. It may not be riveting presentation but it is an example of how a lot of information is conveyed.
I also posted 3 items that came through in different readings that I would consider evidential information and no one commented on that. The fact that her grandmother would always tell her to "clean the corners" and the spirit grandmother wanted that message to be sent to the sitter, I can't imagine how someone would get that information except from the "other side". I was laying low to just allow people to respond or react to these items but maybe everyone is dismissing them outright and are just trying to be polite? And not say that? I'm not sure what you want but after this weekend we will be past the crazy busy section of the month and she said she would do a reading for one of the members here. I think they have dropped off so we may take the next in line. Maybe that's where we need to go. I may have given too much too soon information for people who are just at the point of considering the possibility of this manner of communication and of the possibility of the soul carrying on can absorb at once. That book "surviving death" is very good and I think makes a compelling case if you trust the author's integrity and methods. Maybe I had established some level of demonstrated integrity but when I talked about so of the more mind blowing pieces of information then any credit I made have had was used up. I do appreciate the concern about the entities we are encountering and to be careful and questioning. But from my perspective since I've been living this experience for several years now, I've covered that area extensively. It would be like me trying to teach you how to do a two card lift. You're so much more experienced in that area and vice versa. Night all, Bob |
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