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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 14, 2017, Jonathan Townsend wrote: As I noted in the other part of my post, we need to continually renegotiate our freedoms and our restrictions. It is dangerous to think that our present understanding cannot be improved.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I am unwilling to renegotiate these things. That is what is so important about our Constitution. Why should I be willing to renegotiate my freedom? Sorry no not going to happen.
Anyone want to renegotiate freedom of speech? Trial by jury? Search and seizure? Not me. So why should I have to renegotiate this? Because some are short sighted? Please use the correct pronouns. Not "we" and "our" but rather "I" and "my" are what you seem to be looking for. The document becomes meaningless if it is constantly renegotiated.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 14, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote: You've already done it several times. Your constitution did not initially apply to women or to slaves. Your notions of freedom of speech have been challenged (mostly expanded) by the courts as new issues come to light. Your country (and mine, and most others) are constantly challenging themselves to look at their fundamental institutions to see if they are doing what they should. In your country, a great example is the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In my country, the constitution was expanded and a separate Charter of Rights and Freedoms was added in 1980. These are good things.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Then go through one of two amendment processes and get it done the way it is spelled out in the document. Is that too much to ask?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Back from my vacation to the Philippines and back to our original story...
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Oliver was fired and charged with murder in the April 29 shooting and is free on bond http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jordan-edwar......as-teen/
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness...
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 14, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote: I think you're not understanding my point. Even apparently simple phrases as "we the people" don't mean the same thing today as they did on the day of writing. When written, "the people" did not include slaves or women. Language is not stable, nor are beliefs about equality, justice and opportunity. This has nothing to do with amendments.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Separate but equal bathrooms.
If someone believes in afterlife, does that make it okay to kill? BTW a cop was recently fired for not shooting someone. Legalities and interpretation.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On May 15, 2017, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Making things intentionallydifficult does not change what rights one has.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
That notion of rights is both contextual and curiously inconsistent. Nice language though.
Holds up paper scroll and solemnly pronounces: "E-plen-Easta..."
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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