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The public wants it and McGregor has the sons to do it. He can get hurt really badly. Mayweather can hit man. Boxers train to be hit more, because they tend to be hit more. Longer bouts and no wrestling obviously mean more punches. ONLY punches. Plus the gloves allow for harder blows to be thrown.

Yes it is money but wow it can end up bad. I at he has guts.

I don't think boxing is going away any time soon. The popularity has waned considerably, which is what allowed for the rise of MMA. I have a friend who is a boxing fan who wont even watch MMA. Says the wrestling makes it boring and slows it down. Many still feel that way so boxing will always hold a place in combat sports.

Jas the guts, not sons. Geeze even proof reading that got past me.

So'd that one.

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That one was intended to be funny. I did it in porpoise. (Not THAT was funny right?)
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If there weren't at list 2 or 3 typos in a post from Danny, I wouldn't believe it was really him that posted it.
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Only 2 or 3?.
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Minimum ... and who the heck are you posting as Danny?
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Great. Now there is Barq's root beer on my computer screen. Thank you very much.
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If it goes less than 59 seconds(50:1) everybody loses.
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Sometimes Danny's dogs post as him; it's hard to tell the difference.

You can tell when his wife posts as him: the posts are nice.
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Sometimes Danny's dogs post as him; it's hard to tell the difference.

You can tell when his wife posts as him: the posts are nice.


And when she posts there is an ever so lovely accent as well.

But when the posts sound intelligent, it is usually the dogs. I REGULARLY get out smarted by them. The old "I have to go out" ploy which is just a way to get me off the couch so he can sit there. (Yea the dogs sit on the couch.) I fall for it EVERY time!
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If Conor doesn't get him in the first or second round, it will go the distance and Floyd wins a unanimous decision. It will be boring. Mayweather is a defensive specialist, and McGregor gets winded easily. Could quite possibly damage both sports because if it is really boring, the fans wont be happy paying out the money to watch it. Could hurt future PPV. Just my opinion.
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If Conor doesn't get him in the first or second round, it will go the distance and Floyd wins a unanimous decision. It will be boring. Mayweather is a defensive specialist, and McGregor gets winded easily. Could quite possibly damage both sports because if it is really boring, the fans wont be happy paying out the money to watch it. Could hurt future PPV. Just my opinion.

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Oh absolutely it can no doubt. I think any over hyped events that end boring can have that effect.
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I think it's a misconception that Mayweather can only win by decision. The Vegas suggestion (based on odds) is Mayweather by late stoppage, and that sounds about right. The over/under for duration is 9 1/2 rounds, and the "under" is a solid favorite. Rowdy notes that McGregor "gets winded easily." That's an observation made over the course of a career where he's fought more than 15 minutes ONCE. Mayweather is always in tip-top shape and very used to going 36, and make no mistake - those "limited action" rounds are still very draining.

It's easy to assume that in a boxer vs. puncher matchup, either the slugger will win by knockout or the boxer by decision. The reality is that it's very often one of the other results. Consider the following classic matchups:

Ali/Frazier 1: Frazier by decision.
Ali/Frazier 3: Ali by TKO
Ali/Foreman: Ali by KO
Leonard/Hearns 1: Leonard by TKO
Leonard/Duran 1: Duran by decision.
Leonard/Duran 2: Leonard by TKO


Mayweather will bide his time, but if (when) McGregor gets fatigued or sloppy, he will come to life with hands faster than McGregor has seen. I don't think McGregor makes it through this one. I don't think he'll get counted out, but I look for the ref to step in around the 8th.
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One thing the UFC does not have is the CONSTANT being hit. I mean that REALLY sucks! Plus what is the LONGEST that they train for?

It is just the same thing that was said when title bouts went to 12 from 15 rounds. Many claimed any 10 round fighter could do 12 but 15 was another story. It was what made the difference in the fighter. (I'm not making the case though I can probably be put in that camp.)

The biggest difficulty will be conditioning for that long a fight. One spent a career there, one is trying it for the first time. The thing with conditioning is your arms get tired, your speed goes away, even how you see the fight changes.

None of this is to say that McGregor is a bad UFC fighter. Not in the least. Just that he is literally switching sports on the highest possible level. It might be a lot to ask.
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I think it's a misconception that Mayweather can only win by decision. The Vegas suggestion (based on odds) is Mayweather by late stoppage, and that sounds about right. The over/under for duration is 9 1/2 rounds, and the "under" is a solid favorite. Rowdy notes that McGregor "gets winded easily." That's an observation made over the course of a career where he's fought more than 15 minutes ONCE. Mayweather is always in tip-top shape and very used to going 36, and make no mistake - those "limited action" rounds are still very draining.

It's easy to assume that in a boxer vs. puncher matchup, either the slugger will win by knockout or the boxer by decision. The reality is that it's very often one of the other results. Consider the following classic matchups:

Ali/Frazier 1: Frazier by decision.
Ali/Frazier 3: Ali by TKO
Ali/Foreman: Ali by KO
Leonard/Hearns 1: Leonard by TKO
Leonard/Duran 1: Duran by decision.
Leonard/Duran 2: Leonard by TKO


Mayweather will bide his time, but if (when) McGregor gets fatigued or sloppy, he will come to life with hands faster than McGregor has seen. I don't think McGregor makes it through this one. I don't think he'll get counted out, but I look for the ref to step in around the 8th.


I made my assessment that is would go the distance based on these factors:

Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out since 2011

McGregor has a solid chin and has never been knocked out

McGregor is much bigger than Mayweather, he got Floyd to agree to 155, on fight night, McGregor will be 160 or more, Mayweather will probably be 153

Pure pride and ego will keep McGregors off the mat.

McGregor is a southpaw, and Floyd doesn't like stepping in with power shots to southpaws. And he cant seem to stop a southpaws jab.

I think he will more than likely dominate.....but...not so sure he wants to step in and try to slug out a knockout. Floyd will play it safe.
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It is an interesting contest which is hard to call. It is like comparing apples and oranges. I think my heart says McGregor whereas my head says, Mayweather. I think the value bet is Mayweather.
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I am just happy to see Mayweather fight live. Even not liking him much I can not deny his legend.
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Mcgregor has agreed to be used as a human speedbag in exchange for a ridonkulous amount of money he could never, ever, earn anywhere else. It is a no brainer for all involved. I just hope for Mcgregor's family's sake he comes home alive.
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On Jun 27, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:
The public wants it and McGregor has the sons to do it. He can get hurt really badly. Mayweather can hit man. Boxers train to be hit more, because they tend to be hit more. Longer bouts and no wrestling obviously mean more punches. ONLY punches. Plus the gloves allow for harder blows to be thrown"


Gonna be interesting to see how this fight turns out. Either of them has a chance. A few things to point out is boxers do NOT train to get hit. Boxing is the art of NOT getting hit. Also boxing gloves absolutely do not allow for harder punches. They have way more padding than an mma glove. A single punch by a dude with a 4 or 6 ounce mma glove will do way more damage than a 9 or 12 ounce boxing gloves. One more thing about the duration of the fight. Some say Conor has not trained to fight that long of a fight but if you break it down, he has. A typical 12 round boxing match has 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest periods in between. So 36 minutes of fight time with 11 minutes of breaks in between. A championship mma fight is 5 five minute rounds with one minute rest periods. So 25 minutes of fighting with only 3 minutes of breaks. Also wrestling drains you waaaay quicker than punching.
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