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They both posted some recent up to date videos showing them training. Mayweather on the bag was smooth and very fast....McGregor on the bag looked slow and awkward. This will be the first time McGregor has ever fought anyone faster than him.

Not only is he faster and more skilled than him, he's faster and more skilled than everybody who is faster and more skilled than him.
He is the best on planet earth.
In a boxing match, macgregor would be outskilled by any number of contenders- let alone one of the greatest ever. Nothing against macgregor, hes just not a boxer.
And now, for a dream payout, he is going into the ring with a pugilistic scientist. A PhD in balance, speed, accuracy, conditioning, defense, punching, counter attacking, finishing, strategy etc.
No contest
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So what odds are you offering?
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On Jul 6, 2017, rowdymagi5 wrote:
They both posted some recent up to date videos showing them training. Mayweather on the bag was smooth and very fast....McGregor on the bag looked slow and awkward. This will be the first time McGregor has ever fought anyone faster than him.

Not only is he faster and more skilled than him, he's faster and more skilled than everybody who is faster and more skilled than him.
He is the best on planet earth.
In a boxing match, macgregor would be outskilled by any number of contenders- let alone one of the greatest ever. Nothing against macgregor, hes just not a boxer.
And now, for a dream payout, he is going into the ring with a pugilistic scientist. A PhD in balance, speed, accuracy, conditioning, defense, punching, counter attacking, finishing, strategies etc.
No contest

Makes sense to me.
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So does McGregor get a re-match against Mayweather playing MMA rules? Seems like that would be the money thing to do. But I doubt Mayweather would agree to it.

At least McGregor HAS boxing skills. He does train to box some. Mayweather probably does not train to wrestle or kick. Expecting him to go to the other sport is just not realistic in any way. I think even the most supportive MMA fans would allow for this difference.
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So what odds are you offering?

Tommy, don't tell me you were born every minute!?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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So what odds are you offering?

I would say...300-1?
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Bet 1, win 300? I'd be happy to place a $10 bet with you.
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I'd definitely take McGregor at 300-1.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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At 300-1 you are approaching territory of betting on anyone. Actually you might be firmly IN that territory.

If my memory serves Tyson/Douglas only went off at 42-1 didn't it? I remember a big payday for my dad, who was talking up his downfall for the whole build up.

Certainly McGregor has a better shot than anyone gave Douglas doesn't he? Certainly not 7 or 8 times worse.

By the way I an not CLAIMING 42-1 as fact, it is memory and may be way off. So don't jump on me please.
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No. Douglas had a better chance because he was a boxer. He defeated other professional boxers to earn his title shot.
Macgregor is not a boxer, cannot box, nor (to my knowledge) has ever faced even a journeyman professional boxer.
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True, but my point was ONLY about the 300-1 shot.
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300-1 may seem abnormal, but the action would be lively, and the payday would be sound.
Macgregor doesn't have even a remote chance.
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But thanks to the popularity of MMA, Macgregor gets to cash in on a fight he could never earn. Good for him I say. And good for Mayweather. Mayweather would never entertain pumelling this clown if it wasnt for a ridiculous pay day.
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Yea even with how popular MMA is paydays like this are pretty much non existent.
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The best odds on offer for McGregor over here are about 6/1

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd......r/winner
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Bet 1, win 300? I'd be happy to place a $10 bet with you.


I was thinking like $500 - 1000 myself.
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It seems to me a difficult event to price up sensibly. My gut instinct tells me 6/1 is too short and his chance of winning is more like 16/1. I would certainly take 300/1 because it gives me a lock. In gambling, a Dutch book or lock is a set of odds and bets which guarantee a profit, regardless of the outcome of the gamble.
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Arbitrage.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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There would be about 12% profit in it I think.

300/1 = 0.3%
1/6 = 85.7%
50/1 = 2%
Total 88%
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There would be about 12% profit in it I think.

300/1 = 0.3%
1/6 = 85.7%
50/1 = 2%
Total 88%



You can actually squeeze a bit more out of it. Let's say you split up $1000 like this:

$972 on Mayweather at 1/6
$4 on McGregor at 300/1
$24 on the draw at 50/1.

If Mayweather wins, you've got $162 in winnings minus $28, or $134, for a 13.4% return. This is your worst case scenario.

If McGregor wins, you cash 1200 and lose $996, for a profit of $204, or a 20.4% return.

Finallly, on a draw, you again cash $1200, but this time you lose just $976, for a $224 profit, or a 22.4% return.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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