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flatbatt
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Hi to all
First a bit about me
I have been studying magic for about 10 years.it went from an interest to a passion to almost obsessive drive. I am an amateur magician/ mentalist. I have done a few mental shows (I live in a small town in South Africa) and am probably the only magician in the area- Cape Town is 4ooklm away.
The shows I have done have been for corporate events and private parties. The spectator response has been good , great and really great I have studied Tarbell (not all as some of it is not applicable but the theory was important) Henry Hoy (amateur magicians hand book) Nic Einhorn, Corinda, Annemann, Bannecheck and numerous others. Penguin Live has been very helpful. I have read, watched and practiced various magic and mental effects and developed some of my own ideas and produced them to good result. I have had my audience amazed, I have had a preacher wanting to cast demons out of me after a show because he believed the only way I could have these powers is from demon possession (that was a boost to think an educated person believed I was the real deal) and many people after a show asked me to explain how I can make predictions or the read their mind etc. So I must be ok at what I do
I have now been asked to put on a charity event from cradle to grave. And although I wont get paid the audience is going to be paying.
This is where I am stuck and need help
Even with the good response from my audience, if I watch my show afterwards (after the high of performing) it seems flat. I want the charity show to be at the level of Derren Brown.
So first how many of your stage assistants can you trust with your effects if any. Do you do full dress rehearsals with all the stage and lighting people. How do I input music into the show What is the "magic" ingredient that turns a good show into a mind blowing event (I have really good effects thanks to Bob Cassidy, Doc Hilford Richard Ostelind and a few others and I practice them and the lines and movements) but I want the show to be such that when I watch the recording or anyone else does the must think F88k this guy is brilliant
Any advice will be helpful
Ed_Millis
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You might get a better response posting down in Penny for Your Thoughts.

Ed
philraso
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It you really want a "Deren Brown" show you will need the help of many people. Mainly production people like lighting, sound, back stage etc. Tricks are easy. Getting a venue and a crew, not so easy. Especially for free.
Ray Bertrand
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On Sep 25, 2017, philraso wrote:
It you really want a "Deren Brown" show you will need the help of many people. Mainly production people like lighting, sound, back stage etc. Tricks are easy. Getting a venue and a crew, not so easy. Especially for free.


You might score the venue for free. philraso is right about the crew. Talented individuals in the areas of lighting, sound and stage are not easy to find.

Ray
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top_illusionist
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Start at your local high school. Contact the theater department. They usually have eager students wanting to lend a hand and be part of a magic show. But remember, if you want a high quality show, then you have to pay the right people to come on board. Food for thought.
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It you really want a "Deren Brown" show you will need the help of many people. Mainly production people like lighting, sound, back stage etc. Tricks are easy. Getting a venue and a crew, not so easy. Especially for free.

You would also have to train in many things like hypnosis, NLP, psychology, magic etc.
I really have nothing new to say, however when I do it is something to hear or read about!
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Many years ago (28, I think), I was told that recorded music was bad for live music because the recordings set a standard that was too high for amateur live musicians to ever aspire to. That isn't actually true, but there's some truth to it.

When we watch Derren Brown, we only see what the show's producers want us to see. When we watch a live and local up-and-comer, we may not realize we are watching the next Derren Brown. Because we don't have the optimal performance and the optimal environment and the optimal team of professional behind-the-scenes folk making the show come out the way they believe will make the greatest impact.

Now, I like Derren very much. He's a terrific performer. But I also realize that I'm not watching Derren Brown when I watch a show with him in it. I'm watching the show.

Many of us want to be great performers. In addition to mystery arts, I am a musician. Not a pro. Never likely to be a pro. I mean, I know what the difference is between my playing and a pro's. But I have fun, I share the music, and I make people happier when they hear me. When I perform magic or mentalism, I know my intention isn't to be a professional. My intention is to share something fun.

And if my intention were to go pro, the first thing I would do is differentiate myself from the big names in a way that puts focus on what makes me different. I certainly wouldn't want to be Derren Brown. Nor Michael Weber, Bob Cassidy, Richard Osterlind, or any other big name. The thing they all have in common is that they are individual and unique. I've said before that what I would really love to see in a mentalism lecture is just 3 tricks. By 5 different people. Each doing the same tricks in ways that put their own unique presentational spins on the tricks. I don't even care about methods, really. I want to see the result of individual thinking.

-Patrick
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