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On Dec 6, 2017, Terrible Wizard wrote:
... or changing cubicles, or designated trans bathrooms, (as an accommodation to a minority). Seems easy enough Smile


Which one - what's the ethos? Designated "oppressed/non-transgendered/privileged" bathrooms for some ... and at whose expense?

Remember we are having lots of abuse reporting and whistle-blower backlash in the news these days.
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Which one? Whatever they decide, or none at all depending upon democratic mandate.

What's the ethos? As I said, classical liberal principles of maximising Liberty, negative utilitarianism and democracy.

Designated oppressed/non-transgendered/privileged bathrooms at whose expense? You mean, 'male' and 'female' bathrooms, and at the expense of whoever normally pays for them - the business owner (recouped through profits) or taxpayers for public institutions.

I'm not sure that these questions weren't already addressed in my previous post.
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On Dec 6, 2017, stoneunhinged wrote:
... real human beings have real lives, not ideological lives. Real joy, and real pain...


And we seem to enjoy stories as distractions. Testing which way the wind is blowing using pantomime, caricatures and archetypes.

@Landmark - a more recent example of letting go of 'not yours'; Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman about Angelo's Miracleman. Smile
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Here's something about the lighter side of conspiracy stories:
https://boingboing.net/2017/12/06/wendyh......ens.html

:)
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... the historical wrongs that have happened on a mass scale, and that need to be ameliorated.



interesting word from French - to make better/improve. Not to correct, fix, repair, make whole, balance, repay... Not to address cause or root causes... still locked into a cave but given a scented candle - but not matches because...


Yes, amelioration for now is the best we can hope for under the present system. To address root causes...well, what did Mr. Nicholson say in A Few Good Men?
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How would you describe your political position/philosophy landmark? I'm having trouble seeing from what root principles you're operating.
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All human beings are created equal.
Don't do to others what is hateful to yourself.
Don't murder.
Don't steal.
All actions which affect people should be decided by those people.

The rest is detail.
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Landmark's ... got over 12,000 posts in this forum.


At first, I thought that this was the most depressing thing I've read all year, but after a little calculation, I see it averages to only about 2.5 posts a day, so I feel a little better.

And if I eliminate from the count all the posts I wasted responding to Carrie Sue, that would probably take me down to one a day... Smile

Crap @#$&! I just added another post.
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Is it worth pushing anyone on any of the outstanding unanswered questions that are left scattered about, or has this discussion fizzled out now?
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I don't think it's over. I think there's plenty left to discuss. Let's see how it goes.
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On Oct 28, 2017, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
We've enjoyed a bit of loose talk and giggles about conspiracy theories. Who takes this stuff seriously, right?

Apparently more than we'd like to think.


Want of narrative context for an incident.
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Landmark:
What is left to discuss?
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Oh grow up, all of you.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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"Mom, I want to be a magician when I grow up."
"No, you can only be one or the other."
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Ringmaster:
Huh? What? I don't get the humour?
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...to come to the aid of the party

https://www.wired.com/story/justice-demo......er-data/

if you're pre-approved, right?
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Here's some more about net neutrality - in case folks are interested:
https://newint.org/blog/2017/12/13/net-neutrality
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More news of the day - related to the freedom of speech topic but not the thread above

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/24/stat......-speech/
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Https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/08/james-......vatives/

"James Damore just filed a class action lawsuit against Google, saying it discriminates against white male conservatives"
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Interesting.
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