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Can you use it without sleeves?
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On Nov 27, 2017, Psy wrote:
Can you use it without sleeves?


did you watch the video? All is answered...
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I watched it now. Thanks!
This had so much potential BUT I found out that the battery will only last 30 minutes!!! I wanted a which hand effect as an opener for my corporate closeup gigs and this is NOT convenient at all. I will NOT purchase this and wait for Hugo Smile
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RFID/NFC chips are powered by magnetic impulse from the reciever. If that’s not how this works I’d be very surprised.

In that case then maybe, I'm ignorant of the technology involved.

In regards to the battery life, this is in my opinion the only downside to chess guess. There is always a downside to every purchase and this is it. There is a work around talked about on the download, and it's making the best of a bad situation. I'll write my thoughts when the gimmick arrives.
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Sounds like I should stick with my trusty Sixth Sense 2.0 and a specific type of chess pieces.
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That's 30 minutes of continual use. As in, receiver buzzing for 30 minutes.
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Ahhhh that wasn't properly clarified in the tutorial, or at least I missunderstood Adam. Thanks, feeling much better about that now
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That is not clear in the tutorial. It seems to me that the battery of the buzzer is 30 minutes and the chess piece has 25 minutes after its being turned on unless it goes to sleep mode after 10 minutes. I would only trust this device if you were to use it 1 time in a stage show or closeup for a video. For turning it on or off you also need an extra tool that comes with the package.
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I do understand and did anticipate that people would be confused by that.

In standby mode it lasts up to 15 days, according to the specs. In continual use, it lasts up to 30 minutes. So you'll get somewhere between 30 minutes and 15 days on a single charge. "Waking" it from standby just means shaking it a little. Pretty standard stuff, really.

It also charges fairly quickly, but personally, I wouldn't want to be performing this for hours at a time. Then again, for context, I focus on parlor shows.
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I get the receiver with continual use, but the chess piece confuses me. If it goes on standby after 10 minutes twice in a row, does that mean the battery is nearly drained? The receiver vibrates, equally a far higher usage when "in use". The chess piece doesn't have that, so if in proximity of the receiver, does it also consume more battery? or is it 25 mins of the switch being on and not in standby?
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I am not sure. I know I've left the piece on for more than 30 minutes. Adam, in the video, explains that he uses the effect about 45 minutes into his set, as well.
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When your main selling point starts to look like the biggest drawback...

What makes "No Magnets!" inherently a better method? How about "No Batteries! No Switches! Always ready to go! Adapt any chess piece or change the theme entirely!" Just seems like a lot of effort went into making up a new method that is much more cumbersome than the original.
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Well, you are obviously welcome to your own opinion. As are we. Personally, I prefer this over other gimmicks I have used in the past. It's simple, straight forward, and reliable.
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For me it was clear that the battery would last longer then 30 minutes and English isn’t even my first language.
I think the video is pretty clear about the workings and the sleepingmode is a good way to save batterie life.

You could compare this with SS and Promystic but is that even fair when you look at the price difference between these products?
For me Promystic would be number one, SS number two and Chess Guess number three, but for 88 euros (black friday deal + free shipping) you can not compare this with the other two I think.
In the Netherlands we have a saying about that, “wanting to sit on the first row for a dime”.
If you are starting out with these kind of electronics or you are an amateur who doesn’t perform all the time then Chess Guess is a good starting point/entry level.

The downside for me is that you cannot make up your own gimmick or order an extra gimmick.
Also I didn’t find much creative appliance towards different routines on the video.
So if anyone wants to share their thoughts on how you could use Chess Guess in a different way then just a single which hand routine I would like to know your thoughts.

Here are mine:
- combination of Russian Roulette / CMR, using ten or more cups while hovering the participants hand above the cups.
- starting with a which hand followed up by a booktest using a chess book.
- starting a which hand followed up by a knights tour.

(Should this thread be moved to Inner Thoughts or deleted at all? We are revealing a lot of information about what Chess Guess is, don’t no if Ellusionist is ok with this?).
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More presentation ideas from Peter Turner.

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First idea coming to me is a kurotsuke with chess pawns.
In that case using all pieces from the same color and guessing who has the weakest one.
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First idea coming to me is a kurotsuke with chess pawns*.
In that case using all pieces from the same color and guessing who has the weakest one.

*pieces?
Regulation kings and queens are too big to hide completely in the hand, bishops are tight. I think you'd be better off with several black pawns and one white pawn.

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You are right, better with pawns only.

Maybe they can also be hide under the table, in that case you are using a bag so you can 'feel' when the white pawn is taken.
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Or you can hand them both the white and black, ask them to hide one in their back and bring the other one to the front hidden in one hand. Now, there are two options, one, you know is the white one and which hand has it, or you know it's the black and don't know which hand, but can use any which hand method you want (tequila hustler?). So you guess the color and the hand.

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Nice idea, Marc.
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