|
|
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3~4~5~6~7~8 [Next] | ||||||||||
Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1573 Posts |
Patents cannot be renewed, but the life of drug patent can be extended in certain circumstances. A patent on a pants rivet (for example with Levi's jeans) would not be renewable under current U.S. laws.
Trademarks, on the other hand, can be renewed indefinitely as long as the trademark is in use. So Levi's could trademark logos with a rivet and could then prevent others from using a similar logo. However, Levi's would have needed to be the first to trademark a logo for jeans with a rivet. It's confusing for sure, which is why there are patent lawyers. But it's the reason why Coca-Cola has a trademarked product. Others can manufacture a similar cola soft drink beverage but not the exact same formula. |
|||||||||
naptownal New user 8 Posts |
The King has no clothes! That's my reaction to this effect. This is a sucker effect meaning I'm a sucker for having downloaded it! Basically you predict that a spectator's card is 27 cards down from the top of the deck after telling said spectator to replace her card back in the middle of the deck(isn't the middle of the deck around 25, 26, 27 cards from the top depending on whether the deck contains joker(s), advert cards etc? There is some built in time misdirection before the card is revealed because you have to reveal the prediction I.E., 27 (from the top), and then count down to the 27'th card; so the spectator may be fooled(depending on their IQ and state of mind.) Apparently this is number one on Penguin, and people are raving about it. There are ways to improve this effect. Here are a few IMHO. Tell the spectator to replace her card anywhere she wants in the deck. Then do a full deck false shuffle, and/or false cuts after the card is replaced. Find the "mate" of the selected card; rather than the selected card itself at the 27'th position from the top.
What you are buying here is a method with very little, if any magic happening in my opinion. Frankly, you can probably use an unprepared deck, and tell the spectator to return their card to the middle of the deck, and with a little luck you can predict that it is 27 from the top, or use multiple predictions in a pay envelope etc. if you want better odds. Please any one on this forum tell me what makes this a great card effect and a magician fooler? That leads me to ask," because people are fooled by a card trick, does that make it a great card trick?" I say NO! |
|||||||||
Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
Well yes, kind of. That’s the whole point of a trick. To fool people. So if it does that then it’s at least a good trick. And truthfully, the vast majority of reviewers like this very much so I’d say you are far in the minority. Not wrong because liking or disliking is nothing but opinion, but in the minority nonetheless. I’d venture must purchasers like the product from reading their reactions.
|
|||||||||
Olivier7 New user London 59 Posts |
Naptownal, honnestly I agree with you. Not on everything but on most of what you said.
|
|||||||||
MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
Naptownal,
Telling someone to place a card in the middle of the deck and then revealing that you previously knew exactly where they would place it is an astounding trick. The nuances that you dismiss are very powerful. Perform the trick and see if your instincts are correct or not. |
|||||||||
Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1566 Posts |
I have both, but prefer Osterlind’s Hands Off because there is a double reveal, you not only know the number, but the card as well.
|
|||||||||
Goldfield Veteran user Traveller 388 Posts |
If you buy a mirage deck you can name the card wherever you want it to be. Nothing new here folks.
The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love & be loved in return.
|
|||||||||
J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
So you would have a spectator deal down through a Mirage deck? No...
Having the spectator do all the handling is a major part of the effect. Jim |
|||||||||
John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Try weber 23, a bit more interesting.
|
|||||||||
cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
Hi John C where can you get Weber 23 ?
Cheers Tim |
|||||||||
bosami Regular user 171 Posts |
Another variation: Since I had three at my disposal, I used the Quiver purses to make it seem as if the number 27 was a free, random choice. I let the spectator choose 1 of the 3 pouches, THEY pick it up and pull out a slip of paper with the number 27 on it, and I then show them that the 2 other pouches had different numbers; 16 and 39. "These are the numbers you didn't pick - you picked 27. Let's see what happens when we count out 27 cards.
You can also make a deck which has a different card position - say 25 instead of 27, so that the trick can be repeated with a deck switch.
...forever curious
|
|||||||||
MinSting Regular user Spain 191 Posts |
I think could be improved by using a mark deck,
this way you already know if the card is the 27 as soon as they deal it, if its, you go for it directly, i am not a fan of having a number like 27, then pick the 28... that's a bit odd, if prediction is 27 must be 27. in my case I better like to spread the cards in the table, move my finger over them, and they tell me to stop, I stop anywhere along the bottom half, they insert it around that zone, if there are 2 spectators, I make a triple table cut that fools 99% lay people, (i tell them to do the cut from my hand to the table) and rearrange the packets, order is still the same if I don't explain well, Rick made this false cut in the performance already when the lady almost screw up the deck. So overall, you force them to put it in the bottom half, you ask them to cut, (false cut) and the magic becomes impossible, somehowthey managed to position their selected card to the exact predicted position, that's much more strong to me, and to make it even more decepting, this method allows you to show the card before and after, if you use the rick lax method, the selectd card might be a neighbour of a mate one, since they are inserting it in the middle, not fully hands off, but almost, and if you want make it even more impossible, the multiple out with Quiver purses is very good idea too, but you must invest some extra money to get three of those
My Web: https://www.mentalbrush.com
|
|||||||||
bosami Regular user 171 Posts |
Quote:
On Dec 13, 2017, MinSting wrote: Spreading the cards is a great idea! Adds some variety as well. At the very least you ensure that they aren't choosing the top half of the deck as a location. In the video, she clearly puts the card back in the upper half. I also like the false cut as well.
...forever curious
|
|||||||||
TuneHV Inner circle New York 2062 Posts |
Another variation would be that you could instruct the participant to return the card anywhere in the deck with your back turned.
Then when you turn back around, walk them through an Ose False Cut... then proceed with the revelation. |
|||||||||
IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I think the flaw is in the presentation, not the technique...
The more cuts, shuffles and handling you add, the less it becomes... I kinda agree that it's a little flawed, especially if you say "somewhere near the middle" and then your prediction is also "somewhere near the middle"...
I've asked to be banned
|
|||||||||
tomd Special user 747 Posts |
Quote:
On Dec 13, 2017, IAIN wrote: Yup, I completely agree. Rick has come up with a magicians presentation, but my personal opinion is that a mentalism approach would be far stronger. With Bob Cassidy's white dwarf handling, he has a billet not used (By the participant) inside the two envelopes to demonstrate that the envelopes are opaque. That billet has an 'x' written on it. Replace the 'x' with '27', just to highlight how the envelopes are opaque in the same fashion, and place it face up on the table. You now have your own version of white dwarf to perform, and the prediction for 'the end' laying on the table with no one the wiser. That handling would suit a subliminal influence theme for ricks trick, and you could tie in how advertisers use subliminal messages. when they least expect it, point out the number laying on the table from well prior to beginning. You'll have one presentation for white dwarf (or one demonstration of a mental technique), and you're set up for another presentation right then and there. Alternatively, this could be a nice addition to looch's 'a nod to pocket watch', as you know the number in advance, this would be far stronger (and impossible) then an equivoque alternative (which is what Looch suggests). This handling would have one theme running throughout (unlike the white dwarf idea), and that theme is laid out beautifully in looch's lecture notes. I strongly advise people look into this, as it will hit HARD. Just a couple ideas off the top of my head. |
|||||||||
Nick-V. Special user Create and Devastate 817 Posts |
Quote:
On Dec 4, 2017, Waterloophai wrote: I thought so too. Telling the spec to Put the card back in THE MIDDLE of the deck and then telling them count down to 27?????? TWENTY SEVEN?????? Isn't that pretty much the Middle of the deck????? And, isn't that where you told them to put it!!!! New Bar Raising Magic Welcomed!!!!!
Peace on the Magical Streets
~Nick V.~ |
|||||||||
MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
I suggest people who have purchased this reserve judgement and just perform it as taught. I have. The objections raised here have not been echoed by the audience at all. I've performed it for my restaurant guests and two days ago I performed it for an amateur magician friend. He had no clue.
The strength of the trick is the simple plot and lack of handling. |
|||||||||
IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
It's a personal thing though isn't it? If you feel there's a weakness then work to fix it...
I've made one physical change and altered the presentation to fit in with a synchronicitous angle and a well known scientific kinda phrase that most people know... It's still hands off, they don't have to replace the card, and the prediction makes a lot more sense...
I've asked to be banned
|
|||||||||
matsam New user 53 Posts |
I really like this trick, I think it is surprisingly powerful, given how easy, self-working, and mostly examinable it is.
I recently got The Gift, and have been working on ways to reduce the heat on this weird gift box pulled out of nowhere amongst other card tricks. I just do amateur magic with friends and family so it is hard to be super casual about it. So, lately I've been trying this: I write the The End prediction on a small piece of paper and tuck it into a small box that is nearly identical to The Gift, but a different color (I do this in advance of starting the trick).Later, to start the trick, I pull this box off the shelf from some other boxes that look similar, and it sort of looks like this is how I store my decks. When it is time to reveal the prediction, I shake the box just like in The Gift, and hand it over to participants to open. For whatever reason, everyone (correctly) is convinced that the prediction was in the box the entire time. Later (usually a different day), I'll pull out The Gift box instead and joke about how I've got another 'special magical box' trick to share. Hard to say for sure, but it feels like there is less heat on The Gift because just like in The End, for whatever reason, it solidifies the idea that somehow I just had that single prediction in the box all along. Shrug. It isn't a big change, but it does seem to 'normalize' The Gift in some way. Thoughts? In general, I'm also trying to explore other ways of revealing the 27th prediction for The End. It feels like it could be punched up just a little in some way. Was trying to think of a way to combine it with Lorayne's Lazy Man's Card Trick (which in this case would be enhanced by letting the spec put the card ANYWHERE in the deck), but couldn't really think of any way to make that work. Has anyone improved on this routine in any ways? |
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » The End by Rick Lax (75 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3~4~5~6~7~8 [Next] |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.04 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |