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Matt Ferro Regular user Minnesota 128 Posts |
You just can't beat the pass. If you master it, you wont go back. When you're in the moment and need to control a card, just do it and the spectators will have no clue that anything has happened.
Don't practice till you can do it right, Practice till you can't do it wrong...
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
If you absolutely want to learn a good pass, Bill Malone's faux pass or Steve Draun's deceptive Midnight Shift are two of the best.
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the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Partizan Inner circle London UK 1682 Posts |
As said, the Pass is a tool and a precision one at that.
It is something to be acquired later on in your journey into card technique, and is a tool that can be used in most places, at most times, in most tricks. I guess most of the sheep in magic would cite the double lift as the most radical move they know. A pass is not just for Christmas it's for life, and if you can be bothered to put in the time is one of the most lethal tools known to card men.
"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus."
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KidMagic87 Regular user 184 Posts |
I don't think the classic pass is all that great. However, stuff like the dribble pass, the riffle pass, and the spread pass are awesome. The only reason I say this is because the classic pass is so difficult to master, especially because it is insanely difficult to eliminate that tense finger movement. Although people may not see the pass itself, they can see that jerky finger movement, which is a HUGE hint that something sneaky is going on, whereas those other passes are invisible, and the finger movement is justified.
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clamhammer New user 7 Posts |
Man, people trashing the pass and the Beatles in the same thread. Rubbish. I can't imagine doing card work without knowing a pass, and the Beatles are responsible for so much in the evolution of music I wouldn't know where to begin. Put The White Album on and learn your pass boy.
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NeoMagic Inner circle I have... 2017 Posts |
Rumour has it that Lennon wrote A Hard Days Night after a particularly grueling session practicing the Classic Pass!
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turnerhooch New user Kentucky 19 Posts |
At the collective behest of the forum, I have begun putting more time into my pass instead of "trashing" it.
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Doomo Inner circle 2365 Posts |
What a complete waste of time... If you can do it... you are golden.. If you can't... ah well...find a substitute you can... But bear in mind... It IS a substitute.
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
Before I put this to screen, I should say that I do double-undercuts, etc but also work hard on my passes so I can use them one day with confidence.
A lot of guys say things like, "well, if your pass isn't 110% invisible, you shouldn't use it". That's a load of bunk. I see a lot of magicians use double lifts that aren't invisible, without worrying about it (though they should). The pass, like ALL techniques/sleights, should be covered by some sort of misdirection. I've heard that Ammar quote a million times, about him being able to see or sense when a pass occured. If you're looking for something, and you have good knowledge of technique, you'll probably find it. But if you're not expecting a particular move, and it's executed well, and covered with good misdirection, you won't see it.
tjo'
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Nik_Mikas Regular user Toronto, Ontario, Canada 159 Posts |
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On 2004-04-28 12:17, clamhammer wrote: That should be some sort of Magic slogan. It's so true! I'm making it my signature. |
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
Pass: Worst Sleight Ever
Beatles: Overrated Screen Name: Turnerhooch (really bad Tom Hanks Film) ...what more needs to be said? |
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jeline Regular user Baltimore 150 Posts |
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On 2004-04-28 18:25, turnerhooch wrote: CHECK.... check, please! :fruity: |
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
I submit my resignation to this forum. It's been real....nevermind.
A moment of silence for our maligned shift and the Fab ones.....Sniff...Amen. |
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Steven Leung Inner circle found the Magic Rainbow after 1614 Posts |
Unfortunately... local magic circle discourage any kinds of sharing about this sleight. Once any new comer ask questions like, "Where I can learn the pass?" They will simply reply as follows:
"Why you want to learn the pass? There are tons of moves that can achieve card control without using it. Be prepare to practice it for a year or two before you can use it in front of an audience. It is definitely not for beginners, try some self working card magic and after you build up your self confidence you can learn more basic moves...etc. Even Jeff McBride now do not use the pass anymore..." We were all once beginners... and now beginners do not have the opportunity to learn from others unless they know what book, video, DVDs they can get. Sadly but true in my cruel local magic circle.
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
The pass rules!!
T. Joseph O'Malley
tjo'
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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
The pass is a very effective sleight and I am sorry I only got into this thread so late. Please follow Ammar conversation that is mentioned earlier and collect all he says. The pass is a valuable tool in card magic if you know what you want to do with it.
Better than the beatles? U2, Live, Van halen, Guns and Roses, etc. but the beatles still rock just like the pass does. |
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magicmann Veteran user 311 Posts |
Although there are other ways to control a card you can't beat the pass. It was the first card sleight I was encouraged to learn.
I use the riffle pass and the midnight shift, the latter is much under used. |
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andre combrinck Special user South Africa 953 Posts |
I used to feel the same way until I met a guy who could really perform this well.I'm practicing everyday now. I know that you could get the same result using double cut,jog shuffles etc., but picture this: The performer replaces the cut above the selection, riffles the deck and squares it. The selection is on top/at the bottom.
It's hard to beat that. Thanks to Fayaad for giving me the inspiration to practice this difficult sleight. Andre |
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Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
Darwin Ortiz covered the general spirit of this subject, when he said that musicians do not disparage a sonata or a fugue, simply because they do not have the technical skill to perform it.
That said, I am in my lab right now, working on a spring-loaded utility device, that clamps to the outside of your deck. A latex finger holds the break for you, and, with a slight release of your mechanic's grip--will do the pass for you. All you need to do is squat down conspicuously like David Blaine during his levitation, and extract the bungee vanisher from your right shoe, and attach the device to the deck, while pattering something original like "I don't know if I have the energy . . . I'm really feeling drained." Once the pass is complete, make a "totally-natural," 45-degree twist of your body, feigning your fascination with a passing bird, an allow the ergonomic vanisher to do the work for you. This is better than Larry Jennings' ridiculous display of shoddy workmanship in "Thoughts on Cards." |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
Cool! How much is it? Is there a video? Do you take PayPal? Better yet, can I buy the parts myself and build it cheaper? You're not going to hide the secret in one of those old paper things... you know...what's the word... a book, are you?
:lol:
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