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drewster211 New user 1 Post |
Hi all,
I’m putting together an act based around the paranormal and want a opening trick. I want someone to think of an object/animal etc... and I have already predicted it on an envelope that’s been in full view the whole time. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be amazing! Cheers Scott |
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Ceierry Inner circle Europe 1582 Posts |
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On Jun 2, 2018, drewster211 wrote: Welcome ! Well, the best way would be Inject by Greg Rostami actually, use it with a gallery of images and you predict the image they randomly swipe to. Olivier
Author of 10S Star Sign Divination - olivier.ceierry@gmail.com for a digital copy.
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
You could also use a similar technique (that's been around a long time) from any word by ben Williams (I think that's what it was called).
Sleepy |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12968 Posts |
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On Jun 2, 2018, drewster211 wrote: learn a basic prediction effect. They go a long way. If you are a magician do a simple f###e with object or animal cards Don't get too complex |
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
Two possible solutions you might want to investigate and consider:
"D.I.Y. Divination Discs" in The Wizards' Journal #31, which is based on Ali Bongo's "Divination Discs", shows you how to make your own discs using pictures rather than obscure symbols, and designing sets of discs for every season and theme that you might want to celebrate. Now that you know which animal has been secretly and freely chosen (for example)you can use a method (included) by Tommy Windsor to show that you predicted what would be freely chosen and sealed it in an envelope which has been visible since before the spectator every made the choice. Alternatively, you can go directly from a free choice of up to 20 different objects ( or animals) to the prediction found in your Three-Way Wallet (also created by Ali Bongo) that I show you how to make from Dollar Store sources which has the chosen object written down. The wallet can be in full view or even held by a spectator the entire time from before the object was chosen. That method can be found in The Wizards' Journal #34 - "Flip Flop Folders".
Jim Gerrish
magicnook@yahoo.com https://www.magicnook.com Home of The Wizards' Journals: https://magicnook.com/wizardsTOC.htm |
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4697 Posts |
Why start your show with a prediction effect?
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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Dr Ross Loyal user Lincoln, UK 203 Posts |
Some things that just sprang to mind:
- Art Vanderlay has a nice little animal prediction effect on his Penguin Live Lecture. - 'Oxford Comma' by Chris Rawlins (from his 'Mind Experiments') could work nicely. - The use of a solid P***********l !@#$e combined with the principle underlying 'Thought Chunnel' (Joshua Quinn) and 'Leviathan' (Francis Girola). Ross
Ross Bartels
Author of: 'Vector' (propless code divination) https://www.mindfx.co.uk/products/vector-by-ross-bartels-e-book 'Janken' (propless RPS effects) - limited release 'Tacitus' (non-verbal propless effect) - limited release |
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George Hunter Inner circle 2017 Posts |
What Philemon said. Prediction effects, being generally less plausible to the typical lay mind than (say) memory, telepathy, and influence effects, are more usually (and logically) performed nearer then end of a performance than the beginning.
George |
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mike herbert New user mike herbert 53 Posts |
Another thing to think about is what is your persona, what you are about and what are you trying to say in your act. For example how did you make your prediction, if indeed it is a prediction. This will influence what "trick" you choose. Then how do you make it convincing. It may be that you haven't made a prediction at all but telepathically sent a message to your subject, the note in the envelope is what you are trying to send.
I hope I am not telling you how to such eggs, and apologise if it comes across that way. Mike |
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
Scott: For those who are "offended" that you would be breaking some kind of rule or law that an "opener CANNOT be a prediction", it's all a matter of presentation. You could combine a simple "Mutus Nomen Dedit Cocis" mind reading effect, like our "Santa-Mental" from Mini-Mysteries Book 4 on The Magic Nook, in which you rapidly read the thoughts of four different spectators (changing toys for animals if you prefer), and as a finale to that, have the envelopes or wallets reveal that you predicted what each person would choose before the show even started. Tell me THAT wouldn't make a fine opener and influence an audience to want to see and hear more amazing mental mysteries (which is, after all, the main purpose of an opener).
Don't be afraid to be different and try new things. Experience will tell you what works and what doesn't, better than those who have never seen you in action.
Jim Gerrish
magicnook@yahoo.com https://www.magicnook.com Home of The Wizards' Journals: https://magicnook.com/wizardsTOC.htm |
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D Whitton New user 50 Posts |
Gray elephant in Denmark
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D Whitton New user 50 Posts |
Or use a svenpad to force.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
First thing I thought of was the method from MMM in the trick called No/No. this allows for you to remove a handwritten prediction or target thought from a sealed envelope or even have your participant open the envelope and remove the prediction. It is one of those things that is so simple I wanted to kick myself for not thinking of it.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4697 Posts |
If you are going to use a prediction effect as your opening, then you should probably limit it to something that appears to have a 50-50 chance.
That way it's quite plausible that you just got lucky, and you can then structure your show where you build up to harder ("less probable") predictions.
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
I don't remember the exact plot, but you might want to check into Kenton Knepper's Animal Attraction in his Wonder Words.
Breathtaking Magic;
Not Breath Taking |
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
Corinda Step One
Barry |
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Lior Inner circle 1962 Posts |
Try to use Nick Einhorn new app digital force bag.
Lior
The Lior Touch
https://1amagic.com/ PEA Dave Lederman Award 2009 PEA Dunninger Award 2001 Life Time Achivmeant IUPA 2016 |
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
Agree with those who advocate introducing your character as your opening effect.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.
If I'm not responding to you? It's because you're a TROLL! |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
If you want to be seen as a typical trickster, sure, there are a lot of good tricks, but if you want to go further not just in terms of personal expression but also in commercial aspects, work in you as the best opener.
People are attracted in our practice first for ourselves. Why you, and not other person? If you want to take that route, you will learn and enjoy far more than just a trick. You will be the attraction, and if you want to learn about that, there are several books and mentors (inside and outside of Mentalism) that you can take.
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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jonnyboy Inner circle San Diego 1021 Posts |
I am surprised that a number of Café members are informing someone on an open forum who has exactly one post how to accomplish something that he may have only seen and wants to know how it is done. No vetting at all. Notice the original poster has not responded to any of the posts yet, or has contributed at all to the Café community. While it is nice to be helpful, we should still be mindful of our obligation to all of our fellow performers to maintain an appropriate level of mystery and discretion regarding our art.
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